TMOY
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Not necessarily. I like 3-day comps tooEvery comp should be a 2 day comp in my opinion!
But I agree that with lots of 2-day comps happening everywhere in Europe, a 1-day one is much less motivating.
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But I agree that with lots of 2-day comps happening everywhere in Europe, a 1-day one is much less motivating.
stoic
Premium Member
Interested!
kinch2002
Premium Member
It is the first one in Ireland though, so I think 1 day wouldn't be a let-down or anything at all. Just something to get the ball rolling over there really.
Kirjava
Colourful
Yeah, it kinda sucks for them. We have it pretty bad with comps being so rare in the UK, but they have it much much worse.
Sebastien
Premium Member
So you prefer to hold a worse competition only because it is the first competition in that country? This makes absolutely no sense to me.
I totally agree with Francois meanwhile. 1-day comps are much less motivating as in Europe we are used to have 2 day comps with a lot of rounds. And the calculation is very easy:
2 day comp = more events and rounds = more fun
=> 1 day comp < 2 day comp
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Kirjava
Colourful
No, he's saying that one is better than none.
kinch2002
Premium Member
Do you not think it's easier to run a comp for one day rather than two? Remember Blake hasn't organised one before. Of course it's not twice as hard, but organisers get tired and a small competition (1-dayers are bound to have less people) is easier to run. What Kir said too
Selkie
Premium Member
Dependant on dates as I have a lot of prior work commitments and city it is likely I will be able to attend
Sebastien
Premium Member
Well, I don't want to start to argue with you in anyway. It's just that your posts sounds for me like "We don't need to give them a good comp, because they will be fine with any sort of comp as they haven't had one before".
I think from the competitor's point of view it is obvious that 2 day comps are more fun.
Considering organizers you're surely right with what you say. But vice versa 2 day comps have some advantages compared to 1-dayers:
- the first day is usually more relaxed, you can slowly get used to how to run a competition well. So you can do better on the second day where it is important to finish in time because people have booked trains and flights.
- if major problems occur (which happens often at first competitions due to missing experience), then you have a lot of time between both days to fix the issues.
PS: I still miss an answer about the city the competition is suposed to be in.
I think from the competitor's point of view it is obvious that 2 day comps are more fun.
Considering organizers you're surely right with what you say. But vice versa 2 day comps have some advantages compared to 1-dayers:
- the first day is usually more relaxed, you can slowly get used to how to run a competition well. So you can do better on the second day where it is important to finish in time because people have booked trains and flights.
- if major problems occur (which happens often at first competitions due to missing experience), then you have a lot of time between both days to fix the issues.
PS: I still miss an answer about the city the competition is suposed to be in.
Kirjava
Colourful
It's not at all like that as we've already clarified, no need to keep saying it.
kinch2002
Premium Member
Don't worry, I'm not trying to argue or anything - it is helpful just to discuss whether 1 or 2 day is the way to go for this. I am going to be involved in the competition as delegate at the very least, so I'm definitely up for making it a great comp. The points you raise about why 2 days is still a good idea for a first comp are ones I hadn't thought of before, and the organisers should bear them in mind when deciding. I had been thinking that if there was a major issue then it would be better if it was 1 day so it doesn't matter so much
. But if that means the 2nd day can be an opportunity to improve on that then it's good I guess . Afaik they haven't decided on the city yet. Dublin is the obvious choice, but might be quite expensive venue-wise.
Sebastien
Premium Member
I don't "keep saying" anything at all, because last 2 posts said something different.
And still you have clarified nothing. That Daniel says what you stated is pretty obvious, but that's not what I care about. Because what he says as well is that a one day comp is enough already.
Still, I don't to argue, so please stop trolling me Kir. I just question the attitude starting small business where starting with big business is as well possible.
Edit: I posted before I saw your last post Dan. Dublin would be sexy for strangers because of easy travel options (--> Ryanair).
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kinch2002
Premium Member
Yeah sorry bad wording on my part there. I don't want the comp to happen just for the sake of getting a first one out the way. I'd be happy however the ball starts rolling and 2 day comps are obviously awesome. The last I heard, Blake (and probably Sam) want a 2 day comp anyway if they can make it feasible with the venue and stuff.
stoic
Premium Member
Anyone else vote for Belfast...?!?
If there's a big contingent coming from GB it's WAY cheaper than Dublin.
(just saying
)
If there's a big contingent coming from GB it's WAY cheaper than Dublin.
(just saying
)
PocketCube101
Regular
cool im in!!! anyone going to the uk open november 12-13
chrissyD
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blakedacuber
Premium Member
although it hasn't been confirmed to be in Dublin, the chances of it not being in Dublin are probably 5 %... mainly due to the fact that Dublin is very accessible(also transport from the airport to the city center is around €3 iirc). As for the 2day vs 1day ... still in the unknown, but if we get a reasonably priced venue it has a good chance of being 2day
Like Kir and Daniel have a 1day comp wouldn't be a let down by any means
Like Kir and Daniel have a 1day comp wouldn't be a let down by any means
kinch2002
Premium Member
So have you found any sort of venue yet? That's the only barrier I can see atm. Does your school have any halls suitable? Maybe they could be obtained for free, or at least cheap
blakedacuber
Premium Member
So have you found any sort of venue yet? That's the only barrier I can see atm. Does your school have any halls suitable? Maybe they could be obtained for free, or at least cheap
my school is far from an airport
(about 40km?) yeah my mam actuall made the suggestion of asking a local school in Dublin Ill have a look anyway
r_517
Premium Member
Oh I didn't know such a thread until now... (Blake talked to me about this in summer when I couldn't access Facebook and most of foreign websites so my info was limited
)
The only problem is the high venue fee as far as I'm concerned, especially if it's going to be a 2-day comp. If we couldn't get as many competitors as that in Guildford, I think the average entrance fee will definitely be over 20 euro pp.
)The only problem is the high venue fee as far as I'm concerned, especially if it's going to be a 2-day comp. If we couldn't get as many competitors as that in Guildford, I think the average entrance fee will definitely be over 20 euro pp.
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