4 Look Last Layer "No Notation" Tutorial - Drafts

[theace]

How?

 

[Bapao]

I don't know

 

[Stefan]

Just go to the youtube page of the video and choose 240p?

Alright. Basically, The videos are about how to remember each of the algs visually.
Sune: Track how the pair goes. Remove, push, re insert.
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Ok, I gotta admit I didn't quite understand all those descriptions so I might have to watch the video to understand. Though... is this what you meant with "understand how the whole thing works"? Following that pair for Sune, for example? I don't think that provides any understanding, it's still magic that it works.

Do you think I should reduce the length in general?

Don't know, sorry. I mostly meant it's too long for me and others who already know 4LLL or better, which I suspected to be the reason for you not getting much feedback. But in the end, we're not your target audience, for which the length might be appropriate...

 

[Bapao]

Just go to the youtube page of the video and choose 240p?

I see...that was easy. See how quick we got that implemented? One less thing for you to worry about

 

[theace]

Ok, I gotta admit I didn't quite understand all those descriptions so I might have to watch the video to understand. Though... is this what you meant with "understand how the whole thing works"? Following that pair for Sune, for example? I don't think that provides any understanding, it's still magic that it works.

Yes. That's what I meant. People find it hard to remember notation and stuff. Remembering things visually is much easier. At least, that's what I've found in the 20 odd people I've taught. I guess it'll help more people as well. Should I have said "remember the algs visually instead"?

 

[antoineccantin]

Interesting. I do the anti-sune double sune, tripple sune and superman from different angles.

 

[Stefan]

Should I have said "remember the algs visually instead"?

I think that would be better, yes. Saying "understand" is not quite true, and it's missing the information of what you actually mean. Btw, when I've shown people the Sune, that movement of the pair is how I tried to make them remember as well. So I do like that kind of explanation

An introduction to the whole thing might be nice, i.e., instead of jumping right into cases of corner orientation, provide an overview of the four looks first. Unless you intend the video solely for those who already know the concept of this 4LLL and just want to learn algs for it.

 

[theace]

Interesting. I do the anti-sune double sune, tripple sune and superman from different angles.

I'll be making another video showing how remembering algs visually can help you mirror cases.

I think that would be better, yes. Saying "understand" is not quite true, and it's missing the information of what you actually mean. Btw, when I've shown people the Sune, that movement of the pair is how I tried to make them remember as well. So I do like that kind of explanation

An introduction to the whole thing might be nice, i.e., instead of jumping right into cases of corner orientation, provide an overview of the four looks first. Unless you intend the video solely for those who already know the concept of this 4LLL and just want to learn algs for it.

Alright. So I'll mention it's about remembering the algs visually. I will be making an intro, yes. These vids were shot for a very close friend and so I skipped it. I'm considering making an interactive video or something. Unless only youtube partners can do it...

 

[oll+phase+sync]

How many Algs are you teaching visually ( 2+7+2+4 = 15) in my opinion this is already too much to view (and re-view... and re-view).

I have seen some arrow based notation wich is much more "visual" than RUL... but keeps printable.

An other suggestion would be 4LLL = EO + CP + CO + EPLL , here algs are shorter and fewer, and you can leave mirroroing as an unseful exercise to tho viewer.

 

[Rpotts]

oll+phase+sync - about the 4LLL, the beginners method I learned from taught it the way you recommend, EO - CP - CO - EP

EO - F R U R' U' F' or F U R U' R' F'

CP - Niklas - L U' R' U L' U' R

CO - Sunes - R U R' U R U2 R' and R' U' R U' R' U2 R

EP - Alan - R2 U F B' R2 B F' U R2

this way you only need 6 algs counting mirrors to get a basic LL. Petrus LL with EO basically.

 

[oll+phase+sync]

oll+phase+sync - about the 4LLL, the beginners method I learned from taught it the way you recommend, EO - CP - CO - EP

EO - F R U R' U' F' or F U R U' R' F'

CP - Niklas - L U' R' U L' U' R

CO - Sunes - R U R' U R U2 R' and R' U' R U' R' U2 R

EP - Alan - R2 U F B' R2 B F' U R2

this way you only need 6 algs counting mirrors to get a basic LL. Petrus LL with EO basically.

This is what I meant, there is still much freedom how to teach it:

for exsample:

Allan / U-Perm can be done as Sune Combo R U R' U R U2 R' AUF R' U' R U' R' U2 R wich is nice within a video. (or cover full EPLL)

also the Part on how to do the correct AUF for the Niklas might be explained in a video much better than by written text (I remember when I read the explanation on Lars Retrus site - I did it right but not fast afterwards )

also the part how mirroring Niklas can influence the Orientation is good for visual presentation.

 

[theace]

How many Algs are you teaching visually ( 2+7+2+4 = 15) in my opinion this is already too much to view (and re-view... and re-view).

I have seen some arrow based notation wich is much more "visual" than RUL... but keeps printable.

An other suggestion would be 4LLL = EO + CP + CO + EPLL , here algs are shorter and fewer, and you can leave mirroroing as an unseful exercise to tho viewer.

oll+phase+sync - about the 4LLL, the beginners method I learned from taught it the way you recommend, EO - CP - CO - EP

EO - F R U R' U' F' or F U R U' R' F'

CP - Niklas - L U' R' U L' U' R

CO - Sunes - R U R' U R U2 R' and R' U' R U' R' U2 R

EP - Alan - R2 U F B' R2 B F' U R2

this way you only need 6 algs counting mirrors to get a basic LL. Petrus LL with EO basically.

These vids are kind of like building blocks for Full OLL and PLL. I'll be making vids for remembering Full PLL as well. Thanks for the suggestion though. When I teach absolute beginners, I use this approach:

EO: FRU (RUF)'
CO: Sunes + Anti Sunes
CP: A Perm
EP: U Perms (The M slice based ones. Short and easy to remember)

 

[Stefan]

EO: FRU (RUF)'

Now I know why you don't like notation.

 

[theace]

I'm too lazy? xD

 

[Stefan]

No, because you can't handle it

FRU (RUF)'

 

[oll+phase+sync]

http://www.mathematische-basteleien.de/zauberwuerfel.htm

Found a site wich uses arrow notation (scroll down a bit, don't read), if you are a video freak you could fade this in and highlight the current move.

 

[theace]

No, because you can't handle it

FRU (RUF)'

Lol. I put it in that way because i was too lazy to type R'U'F'. i didn't know it meant that xD

http://www.mathematische-basteleien.de/zauberwuerfel.htm

Found a site wich uses arrow notation (scroll down a bit, don't read), if you are a video freak you could fade this in and highlight the current move.

I'm not a vid freak Could you tell me how to do it?

 

[oll+phase+sync]

I'm not a vid freak Could you tell me how to do it?

Sorry, I'm not a video freak either, It would just look like karaoke song text.