What took you longer to learn? OLL or PLL?

[d4m4s74]

I learned full PLL in around a week, no problem at all
I'm still learning full OLL

I do one look oll with two look algs
For example for headlights I use atisune U' sune (The only second look case I do with two algs, just because I don't like the alg in the OLL list I learned from) and for the "kiteflip" (OLL 39) I use P (f sexy f') sune
and because I can already recognize all OLLs I'm slowly learning each of them

 

[QCcuber4]

I think the post's question has an easy answer... Pll is the easiest... 21 algs vs 57, pll wins.

 

[ElectricDoodie]

Execution isn't what kills you at OLL. It's recognition. The more time you look at OLL cases and see lines, dots, or small L's the harder it is to break from there and scan the whole top layer quickly to see the case.

Wow, if this is true, I've made a bad choice.

I've been holding off on OLL, as I try to get my F2L under 11 seconds. Because of this, I'm still using 2LOLL, and Full PLL.
So, me getting used to the dot/bar/line/L is going to make it harder for me to transition to Full OLL?

Maybe I should get on it, then...

 

[That70sShowDude]

Obvious sarcasm is obvious

 

[RTh]

OLL is taking way longer. PLL took a week, 3 algs per day. 2 weeks to practice.

OLL about 1 alg every 4 days, they are boring xD

 

[Hiero]

PLL took me about 2 weeks and OLL took about 2 months. The PLL algorithms were a pain to learn at first because when you are a begginer you are not used to such long algorithms. OLL was suprisingly easy until you get past 30 algorithms and then it's about recognition and keeping the algorithms straight in your head. I do like the OLL algorithms much better.

 

[StachuK1992]

OLL (57) is taking me longer to learn than CLS (105) did.
Numbers aren't everything; interest helps a lot.

 

[JyH]

cfopyuck

 

[CubicNL]

Oll for sure.

 

[cuberkid10]

PLL took the longest. (Almost a year and a half) I only have 10 OLl's left and it took 2 months.

 

[freshcuber]

Wow, if this is true, I've made a bad choice.

I've been holding off on OLL, as I try to get my F2L under 11 seconds. Because of this, I'm still using 2LOLL, and Full PLL.
So, me getting used to the dot/bar/line/L is going to make it harder for me to transition to Full OLL?

Maybe I should get on it, then...

It still messes me up sometimes. I'll think I have a Line case and it ends up actually being a Knight Move case and then I end up with another OLL to solve. The dots are pretty easy to overcome but it the Lines and small L's are a bit tougher to break the habit with.

 

[Rpotts]

sorry freshcuber, but OLL recognition is easy. you can recognize but looking at the U face (obvious pattern which limits the case to a few mirrors and such) and one side face like R or F (or both)

 

[freshcuber]

That's easy to say once you've been doing it a while but in the beginning I believe OLL recognition is harder. Especially since PLL can be identified by looking at two faces and OLL usually needs three.

 

[Rpotts]

OLL does not need 3. 2 face pll recognition is sorta hard (especially when it's not auf'd) but 2 face oll recognition is easy.

 

[freshcuber]

Yea free a while. Neither of us will agree with the other. Speaking from experience everyone says "oh just learn PLL and then do OLL whenever" that leads to people putting off OLL when its really not hard at all.

 

[Rpotts]

I'm just curious which OLLs you think need 3 faces to recognize, I haven't noticed any that do but I could be wrong.

 

[Coke]

OLL, mainly because there are like more than twice as many cases, not to mention practicing recognition.

On the other hand however, Those G perms can get pretty nasty...

 

[Andrew Ricci]

Freshcuber, I have to disagree with you completely. And I'll give you four good reasons for why.

1.) Learning PLL first keeps beginners from getting frustrated, since you can complete the entire set in around two weeks easily. With OLL, it can take you 2-3 months, which is plenty of time for a new solver to give up. 57 algs is pretty intimidating as well.

2.) Switching from two look OLL to one look is really not hard to get used to. Seriously. It took me maybe a day or two, max.

3.) Finishing PLL first allows the user to have a full set completed, while learning OLL results in the user being stuck in an in between stage for weeks. This can get very frustrating when it comes to recognizing cases. In reality, it will result in the user having a large recognition increase, which will not improve until the cuber can finish a certain set of patterns. This can be frustrating for beginners trying to get faster.

4.) PLL will improve your times much quicker. Nuff said.

 

[tozies24]

I learned full pll in the first couple months of cubing (roughly 3) and I just finished full oll. It took about 12 months for full oll but I didn't really bother too much with that until recently. pll was a lot easier to learn for me because the cases come up more often since there are only 21. Two look OLL was good enough for me since it is pretty straight forward. two look pll in my opinion was a lot of guess and get lucky, so i wanted to learn that first.

So OLL took a lot longer to get to answer the question.

 

[cincyaviation]

PLL took much longer, mostly because i was a lot more dedicated to learning OLL than PLL.