Switching from M2 with new Pochmann to 2 Cycle..

[Mike Hughey]

Does anyone really fast (say, sub-1:30) use R2?

Mondo uses it.

Really? That's quite interesting!

And really, is sub1:30 *that* fast anymore

Yes, we all know it's slow compared to you! But you still need to do it in competition.

And Stefan, I feel your pain. I figure I'm dropping out of the top 100 next weekend (an even lousier 3:17), but I'm hoping to get back in it in two weeks at Cincinnati. I figure sub-1:30 is going to be required to stay in the top 100 by the end of 2009 or so. I'm trying to figure out a plan to get there.

 

[Dene]

It's wierd how no one has taken on R2. I personally would like to but I'm never practising BLD these days >.<

 

[Stefan]

Someone else recently told me he got a 1:35 average-of-10 with M2 and R2 and I think he'll keep improving.

 

[joey]

And really, is sub1:30 *that* fast anymore

Yes, we all know it's slow compared to you! But you still need to do it in competition.

Gimme a break, it's been six months since I competed! I hope I can break sub1:08! Or maybe sub1:00.62, because sub-1 is too hard


(I wasn't trying to put anyone down, about saying 1:30 isn't fast!)

EDIT (me and stefan posted at the same time)

Someone else recently told me he got a 1:35 average-of-10 with M2 and R2 and I think he'll keep improving.

Care to mention his name? (if he is ok with it)

 

[Stefan]

Don't know whether he'd be ok with it, he mailed me privately.

 

[joey]

Don't know whether he'd be ok with it.

Ok, well I hope you give this site to him, see if he wants to sign up!

Unless, it is someone here, who is being a sneaky little devil!

 

[martijn_cube]

i'm using old pochmann for corners now. do you think it could be faster if i used R2? i'm just at the beginning of bld solving so it's still easy to switch. Erik says on his site that R2 isn't as beautifull as M2. but i think i will look in to it. i really love the short 'alg'. less chance to mess up the alg.
Stefan: what do you think are the pros/cons of R2 over old pochmann, and vice versa?

edit: sorry for typing your name wrong.

 

[joey]

StefanPouchmann: What do you keep in this pouch of yours?

 

[Dene]

Lol, just what I was thinking. How could you spell it wrong when the name is right there?

 

[martijn_cube]

mmm. sorry. didn't look at that. lol. just always typed it like that. my bad

 

[Stefan]

Stefan: what do you think are the pros/cons of R2 over old pochmann, and vice versa?

R2 is faster but requires learning a few algorithms and the toggling R slice might confuse you, depending on your memorization method.

 

[martijn_cube]

Stefan: what do you think are the pros/cons of R2 over old pochmann, and vice versa?

R2 is faster but requires learning a few algorithms and the toggling R slice might confuse you, depending on your memorization method.

i just had my first bld solve with M2/old pochmann. the old pochman with the Y-perm is pretty easy. but i want to start to use the PAO system for my memo, so have to learn the algs. so it doesn't really matter if i would learn the R2 algs or the old pochmann algs.

if i had to choose between old pochmann, R2 or 3cycle. what do you recommend? i like the fact that i never have parities with the old pochmann.

 

[joey]

if i had to choose between old pochmann, R2 or 3cycle. what do you recommend? i like the fact that i never have parities with the old pochmann.

I don't know where you get this idea that you don't get parity with old pochmann. You do.

In terms of speed, it's probably
3-cycle > R2 > old pochmann.
But really, it's hard to know about R2, cos hardly anyone uses it.

 

[martijn_cube]

i think because i solve it the simple way. just solve every sticker with a cycle, also the flipt corners. maybe thats why i don't have parity.

i first solve the edges, and then the corners. and from the 30 solves(ok thats not really very much) i wrote down, all of then were without corner parity. so maybe if you flip the last two corners with one alg that would be the parity? what other parity can you get on the corners?

and i think i will also look into the 3cycle for the corners.

 

[joey]

You can't avoid parity it is as simple as that. You will have parity, but maybe you don't really understand it.

 

[Harris Chan]

Someone else recently told me he got a 1:35 average-of-10 with M2 and R2 and I think he'll keep improving.

Don't tell me it's Nakajima haha.

 

[martijn_cube]

You can't avoid parity it is as simple as that. You will have parity, but maybe you don't really understand it.

mm that's indeed possible.

 

[Stefan]

Don't tell me it's Nakajima haha.

Ok I won't.

 

[martijn_cube]

You can't avoid parity it is as simple as that. You will have parity, but maybe you don't really understand it.

mm that's indeed possible.

But can you tell me what kind of parities i can get with the old Pochmann for the corners, or explain it a bit more?

 

[Lotsofsloths]

Don't tell me it's Nakajima haha.

Ok I won't.

Haha, Nakijima is amazing.
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