Roux+ ZB+CFOP

[fei193]

This is my scramble and solution this combine of Roux, ZB, Fridrich. I need to know everyone's advices^^

Scramble: U LD R B DF D2 R L B' R2 L' ( white U face, and green F face)
y2 U M2 UD MD
U L U' L' F' U F' ( block 1x2x3 )
R2 M U' M2
U' M U' M' ( expand block 2x2x3 , do just like 4x4)

U' F R' F'
R U' R'2 U' R
y U2 L' U L y' ( F2L)

R' F R2 U R' U' F' ( last pair uses ZBF2L) OLL skip, often is cross U face
And PLL

Im try to make some different while play Roux, petrus , CFOP and ZB
When expand block 2x2x3, can be used Lars - fix bad edges and EJF2L
And sorry for my English^^ it's not good enough

 

[danthecuber]

So I would have to learn all 306 ZBF2L algorithms?

 

[fei193]

So I would have to learn all 306 ZBF2L algorithms?

No, you just have to learn 16 cases http://www.cubezone.be/conU1b.html ( 8 first cases)

http://www.cubezone.be/conU1a.html ( and 8 first cases in this link)

 

[qqwref]

So your method is:
1x2x3 -> 2x2x3 -> finish F2L, use VHF2L -> ZBLL

Problem is, 1x2x3 -> 2x2x3 isn't very efficient - you'd be better off doing 2x2x2 -> 2x2x3. Also, finishing F2L this way (and then using VHF2L, which is pairing and then inserting while orienting edges) isn't all that efficient either - it's faster to orient all 7 remaining edges first, then finish F2L using only R and U turns. So you'd be better off doing this:
2x2x2 -> 2x2x3 -> orient edges -> finish F2L -> ZBLL

And this is Petrus (a well-known method) with ZBLL. So there you go.

 

[danthecuber]

So your method is:
1x2x3 -> 2x2x3 -> finish F2L, use VHF2L -> ZBLL

Problem is, 1x2x3 -> 2x2x3 isn't very efficient - you'd be better off doing 2x2x2 -> 2x2x3. Also, finishing F2L this way (and then using VHF2L, which is pairing and then inserting while orienting edges) isn't all that efficient either - it's faster to orient all 7 remaining edges first, then finish F2L using only R and U turns. So you'd be better off doing this:
2x2x2 -> 2x2x3 -> orient edges -> finish F2L -> ZBLL
And this is Petrus (a well-known method) with ZBLL. So there you go.

Nothing indicates that ZBLL is used. The method uses 7 OLLs (cross is oriented) and all 21 PLLs

 

[fei193]

Nothing indicates that ZBLL is used. The method uses 7 OLLs (cross is oriented) and all 21 PLLs

year, Im not use ZBLL . Block 1x2x3 >>> 2x2x3(use M layer)>>> F2L one of 2 pairs, other pair use ZBF2L>>> OLL (7 cases cross) + PLL

 

[eastamazonantidote]

So your method is:
1x2x3 -> 2x2x3 -> finish F2L, use VHF2L -> ZBLL

Problem is, 1x2x3 -> 2x2x3 isn't very efficient - you'd be better off doing 2x2x2 -> 2x2x3. Also, finishing F2L this way (and then using VHF2L, which is pairing and then inserting while orienting edges) isn't all that efficient either - it's faster to orient all 7 remaining edges first, then finish F2L using only R and U turns. So you'd be better off doing this:
2x2x2 -> 2x2x3 -> orient edges -> finish F2L -> ZBLL

And this is Petrus (a well-known method) with ZBLL. So there you go.

Combinations using Roux are usually not that great. You're better off using Petrus (as noted above) because expanding a 2x2x2 is soooo much easier than expanding a 1x2x3. But I disagree that orienting edges before the last slot is more productive than VHF2L/ZBF2L. Using partial edge control is more than enough to give you a nice VHF2L case (there are only a few bad ones anyway), which takes up less time than determining how to orient the final 7 edges (for me at least).

But yeah, not a new method if it's made practical. And if you keep it in its current form it's not good enough.

 

[fei193]

Everyone's advces is thread's purpose^^

 

[Kenneth]

After the 2x2x3 you may not place the last cross and don't do EO while solving the last pair but use [wiki]L5E[/wiki] orientations after instead (5 cases) and M' U2 M to solve the last piece for the cross (if you did not force it into place during L5EO). Advantages are more freedom building and solving the pairs and you will save moves.

You learn L5EO in a day =)

 

[irontwig]

That's Doug Li's method, with the only difference that he built a 2x2x3 missing one edge rather than skipping the edge later.

 

[fei193]

After the 2x2x3 you may not place the last cross and don't do EO while solving the last pair but use [wiki]L5E[/wiki] orientations after instead (5 cases) and M' U2 M to solve the last piece for the cross (if you did not force it into place during L5EO). Advantages are more freedom building and solving the pairs and you will save moves.

You learn L5EO in a day =)

Thank you, it may usefull for me.