Question about V-cube 2 design

[Zarxrax]

This has nothing to do with the issues between verdes and guhong, so lets please not bring that into this thread.

Looking through the V-cube patent designs, I noticed that the 2x2x2 design doesn't look particularly exceptional. In fact it looks like pretty much every other 2x2x2 that I have ever seen. I'm wondering what quality particularly sets v-cube's 2x2x2 apart from a normal one?
Has anyone ever made their own V2? Designs at least?

 

[cincyaviation]

You make it sound like it needs to be different.

 

[da25centz]

You make it sound like it needs to be different.

after so many different ideas have been tried, there really isn't that much else that can be done at a certain point

 

[Zarxrax]

Well, actually it does need to be different. If verdes is claiming that his patent covers the 2x2x2, then his design must have some feature that others dont, as you cant patent existing ideas.

 

[da25centz]

Well, actually it does need to be different. If verdes is claiming that his patent covers the 2x2x2, then his design must have some feature that others dont, as you cant patent existing ideas.

unless his patent pre-dates the other cubes, which could be possible

 

[Tim Major]

You make it sound like it needs to be different.

To be patented, it has to be different/new. You can't patent the kettle, after it's already been invented, unless yours is in a big enough way (decided by a patent attorney) different. I haven't seen the V2 patent design, so I'll go check that out now.

 

[Zarxrax]

unless his patent pre-dates the other cubes, which could be possible

You are correct, it could indeed. But that would mean that lots of 2x2x2's in use today are KOs. I hope this is not the case.

 

[da25centz]

You are correct, it could indeed. But that would mean that lots of 2x2x2's in use today are KOs. I hope this is not the case.

well thats good cause to buy up some 2x2s before they can't be sold anymore

 

[uberCuber]

The V-Cube patent was not issued until October 13, 2009

 

[da25centz]

The V-Cube patent was not issued until October 13, 2009

the real question is when did all of the other 2x2s come out?

 

[FatBoyXPC]

This is typically where people would ask for a citation, uberCuber, especially since I found this:

http://www.twistypuzzles.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2746

Unfortunately the link doesn't work to the patent, but as you can see, that was posted in 2004.

 

[uberCuber]

the real question is when did all of the other 2x2s come out?

here is a video that says "I show you the new Ghost Gand 2x2"
This video was uploaded April 3, 2010.

Don't know about others though

 

[da25centz]

here is a video that says "I show you the new Ghost Gand 2x2"
This video was uploaded April 3, 2010.

Don't know about others though

id be more concerned about eastsheen and lanlan, as I think they are older

 

[uberCuber]

This is typically where people would ask for a citation, uberCuber, especially since I found this:

http://www.twistypuzzles.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2746

Unfortunately the link doesn't work to the patent, but as you can see, that was posted in 2004.

Ah, I see. That topic is about the patent in Greece, and I was looking at the patent in the USA (since I live in the USA, it was just instinct to look at that one..)
I feel pretty retarded now

 

[FatBoyXPC]

I kind of hinted that I wanted you to provide a citation, could you provide one?

 

[uberCuber]

I kind of hinted that I wanted you to provide a citation, could you provide one?

according to v-cube website, USA patent is 7600756
So I typed that into Google Patents, and got this:
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=SRDJAAAAEBAJ&dq=7600756
At the left, it says "Filing date: May 13, 2004; Issue date: Oct 13, 2009"

 

[Zarxrax]

Eastsheen was granted a US patent for their 2x2x2 in 1998: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5826871.html

It seems to have similar "conic" structure as a v-cube. At least somewhat.
In any case, does this mean that cubes such as lanlan and ghosthand are violating eastsheen's patent?

 

[da25centz]

Eastsheen was granted a US patent for their 2x2x2 in 1998: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5826871.html

It seems to have similar "conic" structure as a v-cube. At least somewhat.
In any case, does this mean that cubes such as lanlan and ghosthand are violating eastsheen's patent?

I don't have an eastsheen, but from what i hear the lanlan is a knockoff of it. i think the ghosthand is slightly different however

 

[BigSams]

I don't have an eastsheen, but from what i hear the lanlan is a knockoff of it. i think the ghosthand is slightly different however

You post alot.

 

[uberCuber]

You post alot.

Thank you so much for that incredibly useful post.

And yes I know that this post isn't useful either so don't bother saying anything.