What to tell people not as good as me?

[ncube]

I'm sort of the leader of a cube club at my school, and there are plenty of members who use fridrich f2l and 2l oll and pll.

My question is : How do they seem to be turning faster than me if they are 20+ seconds slower than me (I avg about 15)? I thought they just aren't efficient, but I analyzed their f2l, and they are pretty efficient. Help?

 

[Cyrus C.]

Pauses. Different LL system.

 

[ncube]

Pauses. Different LL system.

I mostly use 2 look though

 

[da25centz]

lookahead. If you have great lookahead and no pauses you save alot of time

 

[LearningCode]

They turn faster but are slower.
I recall something written somewhere that goes: "Faster turns may not mean faster timings"

Meh.

 

[Cool Frog]

Practice, look ahead... and more of the p word

 

[Deleted member 2864]

Don't tell people to go slow and look ahead. I remember when I was first told that, it made me feel like I had to half my tps just to be able to see the next step. Rather, I prefer to say that you should be thinking about what to do on the next step while you complete the step you're on. In my opinion, telling people to go slow is silly, but telling people to find a balance in order to turn decently while knowing what to do next is best.

 

[AnsonL]

they probaly dont actually turns faster than you

 

[Rpotts]

^^ Yea TPS wise, theres no way they turn faster than you unless they use a method with like more than twice as many turns

 

[LearningCode]

Sexy move?

 

[Chrish]

When I see other people solve a slower time than me, I usually do feel like they're turning faster. And the slower times is not because of pauses and whatever else, it's because when you are solving a cube yourself, you see exactly what you're doing and because you're able to follow, it doesn't seem too fast. When you watch someone else, you just see them turning, you're not seeing exactly what they are (you're watching the cube, they're watching one specific piece) and it just seems faster.

That's my thought anyway.

 

[Olji]

true, try to film yourself doing a solve and watch it, i got baffled of my speed when i did that for the first time, (sub-min lol)

 

[Sa967St]

lookahead. If you have great lookahead and no pauses you save alot of time

 

[XXGeneration]

LOL @ above

anyway, I agree with what the poster three above me said. I found that this holds true all the time.

 

[userman]

When I see other people solve a slower time than me, I usually do feel like they're turning faster. And the slower times is not because of pauses and whatever else, it's because when you are solving a cube yourself, you see exactly what you're doing and because you're able to follow, it doesn't seem too fast. When you watch someone else, you just see them turning, you're not seeing exactly what they are (you're watching the cube, they're watching one specific piece) and it just seems faster.

That's my thought anyway.

I think you are right. I filmed myself solve a 2x2, and I looked like a pro.

 

[amostay2004]

Don't tell them anything or they'll get faster than you and overthrow their leader eventually.

 

[ariasamie]

Pauses.

2 seconds pause for each f2l pair can turn a sub20 solve to a 27 sec solve.
I'm not that fast, (avg 23) but when I do a consistent solve I'm sure it's sub20 before hitting the space bar.
so I believe the the most important thing in speedcubing is consistency.