New event ideas

[Anthony]

They talked about the before. This would be pointless since people can do the cube in 1-look anyway. The times would be too close to actual 2x2.

In fact, I'm sure if someone tried (ahem, Anthony), they'd be able to get sub-5 avg 2x2 avg in competition, doing it BLD style (which is perfectly legal).

After reading what you said, I did a few averages and I'm usually around 6-7. However, I did get one sub 5 average because the scrambles were relatively easy (1-3 move first sides for the most part). I think that full EG is the key to getting fast at 2x2 BLD.
I doubt I'd ever do that in an actual round of 2x2 though unless it was an official event. Don't wanna waste a possibly good round.

You can't always do it in 1-look, some geniuses can but seriously, only happens less than half the time for most people.

Thanks, but I'm not a genius and neither are most of the other people who can 1-look with little inspection time. It just takes practice.

 

[anders]

I like Match the Scramble and Mirrorblocks truly blindfolded since they both introduce new elements of cubing. They have also been held as unofficial events at competitions: look here and here.

 

[tx789]

One haned 4x4x4,

I tryed it and got 6:20 usually my time now are 2:40-3:30

 

[dChan]

An extra aware judge wouldn't really help all that much. If you were judging Team BLD and you heard "cookie", would that mean anything to you? When Eric says "cookie" I know to do RU'R'URU'R'. We have many other obscure codes too...

As for rankings, the reason it would be different is because I'm assuming we'd have to group people in pairs as opposed to as individuals.

Oh, right. I didn't really think of that. Hrm, I guess that would certainly be a problem to figure out if Team BLD ever does get optioned by the WCA to become an official event.

Also didn't think about that one, haha. Hopefully it wouldn't be too hard. Now that I'm really putting some thought into it, a lot of questions come up. One, for example, is whether or not a single person can be part of multiple teams in a single competition? Like I said, these are probably going to be questions we'll answer if Team BLD does get a shot at becoming an official event. This is probably a bit off-topic for this thread.

 

[~Phoenix Death~]

2x2 BLD.
2x2 BLD
2x2 OH
Skewb
Void Cube
TEAM BLD FMFS
4x4 FMC

 

[Erik]

The problem with that is that good team-BLD competitors often use codes to indicate the pieces to solve, whose meaning is not really obvious to anybody but them. I don't want to have to learn a bunch of awkward codes to be able to judge that event.

What is the problem in that? People can use whatever codes they want, that's the fun part of it! As a judge you just have to make sure that:

1. The solver can't see anything
2. The caller doesn't touch the puzzle

Those are ALL the rules there are.

 

[TMOY]

Yes I know. I was just answering to:

I figure you would need an extra-aware judge who makes sure that the executor is only doing moves that the caller is instructing him/her to do.

which seems highly unrealistic to me.

 

[RCTACameron]

Thanks, but I'm not a genius and neither are most of the other people who can 1-look with little inspection time. It just takes practice.

I want to be able to do it eventually.

I think that you could go very extreme with 3x3, like OF Multi BLD or something, but it would take a long time. Just OHBLD would be a good challenge for some people.

I think skewb is most likely to be the next event added. Teamsolve/Team BLD would be good also. :tu

 

[irontwig]

What's so hard with ranking team-BLD, can't you just have one list for callers and one for solvers?

 

[RCTACameron]

What's so hard with ranking team-BLD, can't you just have one list for callers and one for solvers?

Either that or you could just have rankings of teams. For example, person A calling and person B solving would be different for person A calling and person C solving. It would also be different from person B calling and person A solving. Just an idea...

 

[da25centz]

What's so hard with ranking team-BLD, can't you just have one list for callers and one for solvers?

NO, the way i would do it is one single list, so
1) Person A soving, Person B calling
2)Person B solving, person C calling
etc etc etc

you just list it in teams, and the wr and whatnot would go to the team that has 1st place
simple enough

 

[ROFL]

For team bld:
What if the pair had to do two solves, so that each one was both solver and caller and the the average of the two would be credited to them as a team? The down side is that there are pairs where one person is really good at the solving the other is really good at calling, but they are terrible when they switch places.

As far as other events:
I agree FMC should be done as an average. Also, what if instead of # turns executed being used to rank competitors, they were ranked by # of turns away from an optimal solution? This would not impact the results from individual competitions but would make the world rankings a bit more fair.

I also think that OH solving a cube in each hand would be a fun event

 

[Zane_C]

I also think that OH solving a cube in each hand would be a fun event

People would defeat the purpose of solving them simultaneously if that's what you mean.

 

[Anthony]

For team bld:
What if the pair had to do two solves, so that each one was both solver and caller and the the average of the two would be credited to them as a team? The down side is that there are pairs where one person is really good at the solving the other is really good at calling, but they are terrible when they switch places.

Good suggestion. However, I think it a straight up avg of 5 with the same caller/solver would be better.

I also think that OH solving a cube in each hand would be a fun event

Fun? Maybe... Ridiculous? Absolutely.

 

[RCTACameron]

I agree FMC should be done as an average. Also, what if instead of # turns executed being used to rank competitors, they were ranked by # of turns away from an optimal solution? This would not impact the results from individual competitions but would make the world rankings a bit more fair.

I agree, good idea.

Does anyone else want orangina to be an official event? Or at least be the official drink of the WCA?

 

[Andrew Ricci]

I agree, good idea.

Does anyone else want orangina to be an official event? Or at least be the official drink of the WCA?

No, but it's still fun as an unofficial event.

 

[RCTACameron]

No, but it's still fun as an unofficial event.

Lol. I wish Australian comps had it. It should still sponsor the WCA, though.

 

[Edward]

I want something as obscure and unpracticed as feet, but also as practical. No-Fingertrick solving? Call it Ol' School.

 

[uberCuber]

I want something as obscure and unpracticed as feet, but also as practical. No-Fingertrick solving? Call it Ol' School.

i don't even know how to solve without fingertricks

 

[RCTACameron]

I want something as obscure and unpracticed as feet, but also as practical. No-Fingertrick solving? Call it Ol' School.

Although this could be a good event, it would be hard to distinguish whether it was a fingertrick or not, which would also put a lot of pressure on the judges, and the person judging you could affect your result. I just don't think it would work officially. I guess you could do something like 2 finger solving, but the people who want to remove feet would definitely hate that.