"World's smartest kid" solves rubik's cube

UKSpeedCuber said:
I think it's the people that can't solve the Rubik's cube that think he is smart for being able to do it.
You don't have to be smart to solve it.

But, of course the boy is smart, look at the math he was answering.
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Well, the same goes for the math he was answering. There are methods for calculating mentally very quickly. Since most of us do not know the methods, we could look at someone calculating quickly and think they are smarter than they really are (relating this to people who consider those who can solve a cube to be highly intelligent)

For example, here's a trick

They asked him 85 x 85 85 square simply take the 10's digit "8" add one to get 9 and multiply the original to get:

9 x 8 = 72 now add in 25 = 7225

You could do this for all the 10's... 45 x 45 -> 4 x 5 = 20 now add in the 25 hence 2025...there are a lot of other methods like this as well. Now if he's working out more advanced mathematical problems is a different story.
 
ElectricDoodie said:
It said that 25% of India's population with the highest IQ is greater than the total population of the United States.

I know it's not the same, since the US has fewer people, but it's just interesting, as is the rest of the video.
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If you have a country that has greater than 4X the population of another (actually, India is just under 4X US population), and take 25% of the population based on any criteria, then it will always be greater than the population of the other country.
 
>rubik's cubes

i can does that too you know

>math

i can does that too you know

>calendar date

i can does that too you know

hey... wait, does this make me a genius too?!
 
Bryan said:
ElectricDoodie said:
It said that 25% of India's population with the highest IQ is greater than the total population of the United States.

I know it's not the same, since the US has fewer people, but it's just interesting, as is the rest of the video.
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If you have a country that has greater than 4X the population of another (actually, India is just under 4X US population), and take 25% of the population based on any criteria, then it will always be greater than the population of the other country.
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No way. It's almost like I didn't say that myself.
And the point of that part of the video is to show how small the US actually is, in comparison to India.
 
ElectricDoodie said:
Bryan said:
ElectricDoodie said:
It said that 25% of India's population with the highest IQ is greater than the total population of the United States.

I know it's not the same, since the US has fewer people, but it's just interesting, as is the rest of the video.
Click to expand...

If you have a country that has greater than 4X the population of another (actually, India is just under 4X US population), and take 25% of the population based on any criteria, then it will always be greater than the population of the other country.
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No way. It's almost like I didn't say that myself.
And the point of that part of the video is to show how small the US actually is, in comparison to India.
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You said it was interesting. First of all, it's wrong because India is slightly under 4X the population of the US. But even if India was greater than 4X, then you find the following statement interesting (assuming y > 1 and x > 1)

.25*4yx > x

If they want to state that India has a population about 4X the US, fine, state that. But don't try to state it in a way where it doesn't make sense.
 
Bryan said:
ElectricDoodie said:
Bryan said:
ElectricDoodie said:
It said that 25% of India's population with the highest IQ is greater than the total population of the United States.

I know it's not the same, since the US has fewer people, but it's just interesting, as is the rest of the video.
Click to expand...

If you have a country that has greater than 4X the population of another (actually, India is just under 4X US population), and take 25% of the population based on any criteria, then it will always be greater than the population of the other country.
Click to expand...

No way. It's almost like I didn't say that myself.
And the point of that part of the video is to show how small the US actually is, in comparison to India.
Click to expand...

You said it was interesting. First of all, it's wrong because India is slightly under 4X the population of the US. But even if India was greater than 4X, then you find the following statement interesting (assuming y > 1 and x > 1)

.25*4yx > x

If they want to state that India has a population about 4X the US, fine, state that. But don't try to state it in a way where it doesn't make sense.
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You are seriously arguing that slight difference in 4x population? Wow.

Also, nice try in taking an interesting statement, and making it bland by removing keywords, to prove a point. Try to include the entire argument, and not just what deems fit for your argument.
 
School A has 2000 people. School B has 250 people.

The top 25% of school A's population in terms of IQ is MOAR than the entirety of school B's population. Wow, look how amazing school A is!

I would be more impressed if every single person in the top 25% of school A's population in terms of IQ had a higher IQ than every single person in school B. Though, that's really just adverse selection there.

Hey... has anyone ever wondered why success in spelling bees is correlated to shoe size? Shoe size must mean that you are smart!

"Originally Posted by ElectricDoodie
It said that 25% of India's population with the highest IQ is greater than the total population of the United States.

I know it's not the same, since the US has fewer people, but it's just interesting, as is the rest of the video."

The point here is that this statement here would be true if you just said the following:

25% of India's population is greater than the total population of the United States.

Well, Bryan already pointed out that this is actually not true, since India's population is not four times the population of the United States. (It's actually pretty darn close...) You're just not comparing anything here. The number of people who fit in this category, in your case, 25% of the top IQ people in India, does not change regardless of the average IQ of India or the distribution of IQs in India. Your statement would be the same if everyone in India had an IQ below 50.

*EDIT* Sorry, what I would say is that the MEANING of your statement does not change regardless of the average IQ of the population of India. Your statement brings no new information concerning the IQ of India. It doesn't matter if everyone in India has an IQ below 55... your statement is still the same thing. The validity of your statement does not change with respect to the IQ distribution in India, and thus your statement does not concern the IQ distribution of India in any way.
 
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Tyson said:
School A has 2000 people. School B has 250 people.

The top 25% of school A's population in terms of IQ is MOAR than the entirety of school B's population. Wow, look how amazing school A is!

I would be more impressed if every single person in the top 25% of school A's population in terms of IQ had a higher IQ than every single person in school B. Though, that's really just adverse selection there.

Hey... has anyone ever wondered why success in spelling bees is correlated to shoe size? Shoe size must mean that you are smart!

"Originally Posted by ElectricDoodie
It said that 25% of India's population with the highest IQ is greater than the total population of the United States.

I know it's not the same, since the US has fewer people, but it's just interesting, as is the rest of the video."

The point here is that this statement here would be true if you just said the following:

25% of India's population is greater than the total population of the United States.

Well, Bryan already pointed out that this is actually not true, since India's population is not four times the population of the United States. (It's actually pretty darn close...) You're just not comparing anything here. The number of people who fit in this category, in your case, 25% of the top IQ people in India, does not change regardless of the average IQ of India or the distribution of IQs in India. Your statement would be the same if everyone in India had an IQ below 50.

*EDIT* Sorry, what I would say is that the MEANING of your statement does not change regardless of the average IQ of the population of India. Your statement brings no new information concerning the IQ of India. It doesn't matter if everyone in India has an IQ below 55... your statement is still the same thing. The validity of your statement does not change with respect to the IQ distribution in India, and thus your statement does not concern the IQ distribution of India in any way.
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Wow. Leave it to you guys to take something, and have to completely destroy it, because it doesn't fit your definition of "interesting."

I said that, because it was an interesting way too look at it.
Nothing else.

I never said that this means that India is smarter. Now you guys are just putting words in my mouth.


Now you guys are just trying to find messages behind what I said, just for the sake of arguing. Seriously, it's not that deep.
 
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See, this is where I think you miss the point. We are not trying to say it doesn't fit our definition of interesting. We are saying it doesn't fit ANYONE'S definition of interesting.

Your statement doesn't show anything new, and doesn't bring up any points. Your statement is meaningless, and is nothing more than a commentary on the relative population of India vs the United States. Your statement has nothing to do with IQ, and it is not interesting, because we already know that India has about 1.3 billion people, and the United States has about 300 million.

If your statement is interesting, it could only be interesting in the fact that India has a population of about 1.3 billion, and the United States has a population of about 300 million.

Beyond the fact that you have made a commentary on the relative populations of India vs. the Untied States, your statement does not fit anyone's definition of interesting. In fact, your statement is the very definition of something that isn't interesting.
 
Tyson said:
See, this is where I think you miss the point. We are not trying to say it doesn't fit our definition of interesting. We are saying it doesn't fit ANYONE'S definition of interesting.

Your statement doesn't show anything new, and doesn't bring up any points. Your statement is meaningless, and is nothing more than a commentary on the relative population of India vs the United States. Your statement has nothing to do with IQ, and it is not interesting, because we already know that India has about 1.3 billion people, and the United States has about 300 million.

If your statement is interesting, it could only be interesting in the fact that India has a population of about 1.3 billion, and the United States has a population of about 300 million.

Beyond the fact that you have made a commentary on the relative populations of India vs. the Untied States, your statement does not fit anyone's definition of interesting. In fact, your statement is the very definition of something that isn't interesting.
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You cannot force that idea upon someone. I find it interesting and it is what I stated. That's just it. The rest doesnt matter, other than I find it interesting and I posted it for this reason. And I found it to be an interesting way to
put it.

Also, again you out words in my mouth. I never said anything a out IQ.
EDIT: Anything about IQ that said India was smarter.

Trying to find way to prove that it isn't interesting is useless, as I find it interesting. You can't put your opinion on every single person.
 
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ElectricDoodie said:
StefanPochmann said:
25% of India's population chosen arbitrarily is greater than the total population of the United States.

Still interesting?
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Yes. To me, as long as it's a fact, and not made up, it's still interesting.
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So, assuming y > 1 and x > 1, you would find this interesting? Or would you find it bland? It's a fact, and not made up.

.25*4yx > x

Slightly off-topic. My cube and timer are to the left of my keyboard, because if I had them on the right side, the tower for my computer would bump my legs. I don't put the tower on the left because the cabinet is on the right, so this has the left side wide open underneath, and if I put the tower there, it'd be too far from the monitor or in the middle of nothing. On the far left under the desk, there's a garbage can. It use to be a paper shredder, but the top part died, but I like to use the bottom part as a garbage can because it's really sturdy. It does have a metal tab that use to be a safety switch for the shredder, and that sometimes tears the bags. But I usually just put paper in this garbage because it's in my office. If I have fruit at my computer, then I'll make sure to throw it away in the kitchen garbage. I had some fruit at my work office (as opposed to my home office), and I threw the core away in my garbage in my cubicle, and then there was a bunch of bugs on it the next day. I ended up tying the bag shut to stop them.

It's all fact, henceforth, all interesting.
 
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Bryan said:
ElectricDoodie said:
StefanPochmann said:
25% of India's population chosen arbitrarily is greater than the total population of the United States.

Still interesting?
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Yes. To me, as long as it's a fact, and not made up, it's still interesting.
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So, assuming y > 1 and x > 1, you would find this interesting? Or would you find it bland? It's a fact, and not made up.

.25*4yx > x
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It's bland, because there's no fact that makes it interesting.

I know this might be hard for you guys to understand, but to me, putting those numbers into perspective like I posted, makes it interesting to see.

It's all about demonstrating how big India is in comparison to the US, by adding the perspective to it. The perspective that was added, is what made
it interesting.
 
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