Question about new reg.

[Lotsofsloths]

H1a2) The selected number of puzzles per competitor must be kept secret until the start of the event.

Why?



Just a side note:

B2d1) The competitor must remove the cover from the puzzle, after starting the timer.

 

[Dene]

I think it's to stop cubers from going overboard and adding 10 cubes on just to beat "that other guy" or something. The numbers are getting pretty big, and it takes a long time for anyone to do it. That's my assumption.

 

[Lotsofsloths]

Ahh, well that makes sense.

 

[pcwiz]

B2d1) The competitor must remove the cover from the puzzle, after starting the timer.

What?! You mean you have to remove the black box that covers the cube? That's going to take off like half a second to your time! Well that hurts me because it takes me like 5 seconds to actually start turning the cube after I pick it up (I stink at picking up the cube )

Also, I don't want to get off topic, but the rules also say that you can't bring a cube that is lubricated or is sanded. Why is that? Is it because some cubes that are lubricated/sanded are better than others? And if that's the case, then how do people's cubes move so fast? Is it because they break it in (are you allowed to break it in)? Or they use a DIY or what? I see people cutting corners and moving their fingers like crazy and I can't imagine that with a cube that's not lubricated... (I've never tried a DIY so I don't know about that)

 

[pjk]

B2d1) The competitor must remove the cover from the puzzle, after starting the timer.

What?! You mean you have to remove the black box that covers the cube? That's going to take off like half a second to your time! Well that hurts me because it takes me like 5 seconds to actually start turning the cube after I pick it up (I stink at picking up the cube )

That is for BLD. This rules totally makes sense.

Also, I don't want to get off topic, but the rules also say that you can't bring a cube that is lubricated or is sanded. Why is that? Is it because some cubes that are lubricated/sanded are better than others? And if that's the case, then how do people's cubes move so fast? Is it because they break it in (are you allowed to break it in)? Or they use a DIY or what? I see people cutting corners and moving their fingers like crazy and I can't imagine that with a cube that's not lubricated... (I've never tried a DIY so I don't know about that)

Where does it say that? I highly doubt it.

 

[Bryan]

Also, I don't want to get off topic, but the rules also say that you can't bring a cube that is lubricated or is sanded.

Umm....thisis the rule: "Puzzles may be made smoother internally by sanding or using any lubricant."

It explicitly says you can.

 

[Hadley4000]

The first part kind of confused me. Care to elaborate?

 

[Pedro]

The first part kind of confused me. Care to elaborate?

which first part? about removing the cover?

it will be like that:

judge puts cube covered on table
competitor places hands on timer
competitor takes hands from time, remove cover and start memorising

 

[Swordsman Kirby]

Knock the cover over rather than pick it up.

 

[Mike Hughey]

Yeah; I was trying it today with the 3x3x3 BLD scrambles for the weekly competition. I decided that competitions are going to be fun now with covers flying all over the room as people start their attempts. It should be a great show!

I also have a feeling that organizers are going to have to have a bunch of spare covers to replace the ones that break.

(Not that it matters at my speed how fast I get the cover off, but I still can't resist doing it as fast as I can.)

Realistically, though, probably the best way to do this will be to remove the cover with one hand (gently) while grabbing the cube with the other hand by the bottom corners, so you can immediately lift the cube up and start memorizing. Then there won't be a need for flying covers. But flying covers might be a fun show.

 

[shelley]

The plastic box covers probably wouldn't be good for BLDing, as they take slightly longer to remove, and not every competition has them. We usually just use the competitor's score sheet as a cover. That should be easy enough to remove without the front row spectators having to worry about flying projectiles. (Although I agree, that would be funny. Especially if we coordinated a bunch of BLDers to start at the same time )

 

[Lucas Garron]

That should be easy enough to remove without the front row spectators having to worry about flying projectiles. (Although I agree, that would be funny. Especially if we coordinated a bunch of BLDers to start at the same time )

Hey, I want to make them worry!
So much that they complain to the WCA to remove the rule.

 

[shelley]

That should be easy enough to remove without the front row spectators having to worry about flying projectiles. (Although I agree, that would be funny. Especially if we coordinated a bunch of BLDers to start at the same time )

Hey, I want to make them worry!
So much that they complain to the WCA to remove the rule.

Okay. We will make sure to use blunt heavy objects as cube covers at Santa Ana and Berkeley.

 

[Mike Hughey]

That should be easy enough to remove without the front row spectators having to worry about flying projectiles. (Although I agree, that would be funny. Especially if we coordinated a bunch of BLDers to start at the same time )

Hey, I want to make them worry!
So much that they complain to the WCA to remove the rule.

Okay. We will make sure to use blunt heavy objects as cube covers at Santa Ana and Berkeley.

That's funny. When I was doing my solves this morning, I was using the "shell" of my relatively new "pentathlon cube" (http://www.discountables.com/shopping/pgm-more_information.php?id=69&=SID, my parents gave me one for my birthday), which is a big chunky wooden box. Maybe you could just get a bunch of those. They should do some serious damage.

(By the way, I still haven't solved the pentathlon cube yet. I must admit I haven't tried very much, though.)

 

[Hadley4000]

The first part kind of confused me. Care to elaborate?

which first part? about removing the cover?

it will be like that:

judge puts cube covered on table
competitor places hands on timer
competitor takes hands from time, remove cover and start memorising

No, this.

H1a2) The selected number of puzzles per competitor must be kept secret until the start of the event.

 

[shelley]

That's for multi-BLD. Each competitor specifies how many cubes they will attempt, but the number will not be made public until the event actually starts. Presumably this will prevent situations like "Well if he's doing 6 I'm going to do 7!" and encourage multi-BLDers to attempt what they feel is a reasonable representation of their abilities rather than trying to one-up someone else, which is not only silly but wastes time as well.

 

[Hadley4000]

Ohhh. I forgot to see which part of the regs it was in. Didn't realize it was for blindsolves. I was so confused.

Thanks for clearing that up!

 

[pcharles93]

That should be easy enough to remove without the front row spectators having to worry about flying projectiles. (Although I agree, that would be funny. Especially if we coordinated a bunch of BLDers to start at the same time )

Hey, I want to make them worry!
So much that they complain to the WCA to remove the rule.

Okay. We will make sure to use blunt heavy objects as cube covers at Santa Ana and Berkeley.

That's funny. When I was doing my solves this morning, I was using the "shell" of my relatively new "pentathlon cube" (http://www.discountables.com/shopping/pgm-more_information.php?id=69&=SID, my parents gave me one for my birthday), which is a big chunky wooden box. Maybe you could just get a bunch of those. They should do some serious damage.

(By the way, I still haven't solved the pentathlon cube yet. I must admit I haven't tried very much, though.)

I really want to see this put into effect. Spectator's will show up wearing helmets and body armor. Maybe people will finally see cubing as a sport because you can get injured. What if you just happen to throw the cover off and knock out Alexander Yu or Simpei Araki? Would that be a +2 penalty or what?

 

[Jai]

I think the idea behind the taking the cover off yourself rule was to enforce one of the other rules, that say that the audience has to be a certain distance away from the competitors. The audience can choose to disobey this rule, but in doing so, will get whacked by a cube cover

Edit: Speaking of cube covers, imagine what if would look like if WE were the ones being covered, not the cube. That'd be hilarious XD

 

[gogozerg]

H1a2) The selected number of puzzles per competitor must be kept secret until the start of the event.

Why?

There were two possibilities:
- Let people know before and allow them to make a decision based on what others decided. It's unfair if only a few of them know what others do. And you can change your mind when you know. This would lead to a round of iterative and strategic negociation!
- Keep it secret.

Just a side note:

B2d1) The competitor must remove the cover from the puzzle, after starting the timer.

This way, we make sure every bit of inspection is included in the time.
People followed this new rule today at the French championship. Everything went fine, no cover flying above heads.

Gilles.