New Z perm?

[Edward]

and i can Y2 almost as fast as i can U2 twice.

Why the hell would you U4. You never need that.

 

[mynameiswillem]

Not only is joey right about learning how to recognize before PLL, but you can also recognize your AUF from one side, so look at a side that's not being moved during the last 2-3 moves of the alg.

More importantly, a small kitten is also very right: learn how your algs work and practice.

You should know how your PLL works, so you can avoid AUF + cube rotation + AUF.

its AUF + cube rotation + PLL. how hard is that?

if i can average around 20 seconds with AUF + cube rotation + PLL, then im happy.

 

[mynameiswillem]

and i can Y2 almost as fast as i can U2 twice.

Why the hell would you U4. You never need that.

AUF + PLL + AUF. if AUF is U2 then YOU DO IT TWICE. HURP DURP.

 

[FatBoyXPC]

Edward: I think he's talking about for AUF PLL AUF.

Willem: If it takes you that long to U2 you probably aren't double flicking, or it just isn't fast. a y2 takes a full second, whereas a U4 can be sub1 easily.

Edit:
U4:
0.56, 0.52, 0.58, 0.50, 0.52

y2:
0.5, 0.46, 0.55, 0.52, 0.66

Taking to account that a single U2 would be quicker than the double U2, a U2 + y2 would obviously be the slower way to to do it. Not to mention some algs contain a U, U', or U2 at the end anyway. I realize being sub20 0.05 seconds may not matter when it comes down to world records or anything, but look at the top 100 in the world, 0.01 counts as everything.

 

[mynameiswillem]

Edward: I think he's talking about for AUF PLL AUF.

Willem: If it takes you that long to U2 you probably aren't double flicking, or it just isn't fast. a y2 takes a full second, whereas a U4 can be sub1 easily.

yes i do double flick and of course its faster than a Y2. and like i said twice before: AUF + cube rotation + PLL = bad habit. or sub-good habit.

 

[Edward]

Edward: I think he's talking about for AUF PLL AUF.

Willem: If it takes you that long to U2 you probably aren't double flicking, or it just isn't fast. a y2 takes a full second, whereas a U4 can be sub1 easily.

yes i do double flick and of course its faster than a Y2. and like i said twice before: AUF + cube rotation + PLL = bad habit. or sub-good habit.

So you realise that there is a better way. Why are you arguing against the better way?

 

[mynameiswillem]

Edward: I think he's talking about for AUF PLL AUF.

Willem: If it takes you that long to U2 you probably aren't double flicking, or it just isn't fast. a y2 takes a full second, whereas a U4 can be sub1 easily.

yes i do double flick and of course its faster than a Y2. and like i said twice before: AUF + cube rotation + PLL = bad habit. or sub-good habit.

So you realise that there is a better way. Why are you arguing against the better way?

im saying we should add AUF to PLLs. now that i know im in the minority with AUF + cube rotation + PLL i will forever keep my mouth shut about adding a U, U', or U2 at the end of an algorithm.

 

[jms_gears1]

edward stop.
lolthread

 

[FatBoyXPC]

So you realise that there is a better way. Why are you arguing against the better way?

+1

Willem: If you end up displaying an algorithm, it doesn't hurt to add the AUF to the end, people won't bust on you for that. The only reason they came at you here is because you decided to argue with what was "right" or "wrong" and you appeared uneducated.

 

[mynameiswillem]

So you realise that there is a better way. Why are you arguing against the better way?

+1

Willem: If you end up displaying an algorithm, it doesn't hurt to add the AUF to the end, people won't bust on you for that. The only reason they came at you here is because you decided to argue with what was "right" or "wrong" and you appeared uneducated.

i just thought that it was customary to add a U or whatever at the end of a PLL.

so i use this R PLL: R' U2 R U2 R' F R U R' U' R' F' R2 U'. i have built the U' at the end into my muscle memory so when i execute the PLL i want the head lights of the U face to be solved so that U' solves the cube.

idk i guess the militant atheist side of me like an argument.

edit: oh and btw the R PLL was copy and pasted directly from cubestation.co.uk with the U' attached.

 

[Edward]

So you realise that there is a better way. Why are you arguing against the better way?

+1

Willem: If you end up displaying an algorithm, it doesn't hurt to add the AUF to the end, people won't bust on you for that. The only reason they came at you here is because you decided to argue with what was "right" or "wrong" and you appeared uneducated.

i just thought that it was customary to add a U or whatever at the end of a PLL.

so i use this R PLL: R' U2 R U2 R' F R U R' U' R' F' R2 U'. i have built the U' at the end into my muscle memory so when i execute the PLL i want the head lights of the U face to be solved so that U' solves the cube.

idk i guess the militant atheist side of me like an argument.

The thing about it is, with most people, the AUF isn't always the same. Unless of course, they do like you do.

 

[mynameiswillem]

So you realise that there is a better way. Why are you arguing against the better way?

+1

Willem: If you end up displaying an algorithm, it doesn't hurt to add the AUF to the end, people won't bust on you for that. The only reason they came at you here is because you decided to argue with what was "right" or "wrong" and you appeared uneducated.

i just thought that it was customary to add a U or whatever at the end of a PLL.

so i use this R PLL: R' U2 R U2 R' F R U R' U' R' F' R2 U'. i have built the U' at the end into my muscle memory so when i execute the PLL i want the head lights of the U face to be solved so that U' solves the cube.

idk i guess the militant atheist side of me like an argument.

The thing about it is, with most people, the AUF isn't always the same. Unless of course, they do like you do.

ehhh. i dont think you have the authority to say most people. for all you know it could be 50/50

 

[FatBoyXPC]

He could say "most fast people" then, and be right. One of the biggest things to get rid of to get faster is cube rotations, people will tell you over and over to minimize cube rotations, and that is an incredibly easy way to do just that.

Please note I did not say the single biggest thing as pauses would be the single biggest thing, but I think you get my point.

 

[theace]

M2' U' M' U2' M2' U2' M' U M2'

5 moves shorter and 2 gen. Your Z perm is certainly interesting but I'm not sure if it's very practical.

I like OH. It's tasty.

what's 2gen?

Is there a good alternative to the Z and H perm for OH?

 

[hawkmp4]

M2' U' M' U2' M2' U2' M' U M2'

5 moves shorter and 2 gen. Your Z perm is certainly interesting but I'm not sure if it's very practical.

I like OH. It's tasty.

what's 2gen?

Is there a good alternative to the Z and H perm for OH?

2gen refers to group theory...essentially, it means that the algorithm consists solely of two types of turns. <R,U> is common, so is <M,U>.

As for the OH algs, take a look on the wiki, see if there's any you like.
http://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/PLL

 

[Whyusosrs?]

Not true - People BELIEVE in it and is not taken as fact around the world. If it was proven beyond fact I think everyone would be Atheist right now.

I BELIEVE my chair will hold me up. Am I in the religion of chairs?

 

[FatBoyXPC]

Not true - People BELIEVE in it and is not taken as fact around the world. If it was proven beyond fact I think everyone would be Atheist right now.

I BELIEVE my chair will hold me up. Am I in the religion of chairs?

You just had to bring religion back into this when I thought it had been dropped, didn't you? They make PM's for what should be a closed debate.

A Small Kitten / hawkmp4: I didn't realize that M2 U' alg was 1 move shorter than the one I use (basically due to the structure of the alg I don't have a U2 if I do it with corners solved), but I could just use that one for when I'm a U2 away (so it ends up solved) and this one for when it's correct, and then use either when it's a U or U' away, heh.

 

[Radcuber]

ambidextrousness?

 

[hawkmp4]

ambidextrousness?

I has it. (mostly)
What about it?

 

[Radcuber]

What is it I meant? I heard it before, but I've never really looked into it...