Will my OLL recognition suffer?

[darthyody]

Well, I learned OLL 2 years ago and now I'm debating learning CLL. I'd be learning it to use both for 2x2 and for the Roux method. However, I've been thinking that if I do learn it, will it hurt my recognition times for OLL? I realize that the more practice I put in, the less it could hurt but I'm really curious as to any first hand experience from those who have learned both CLL and OLL. Thanks for your input.

 

[amostay2004]

CLL doesn't affect OLL recognition at all...

 

[Zarxrax]

What?
How on earth could it hurt your OLL?

 

[cincyaviation]

are you talking about 2x2 CLL or CMLL or CoLL?

 

[MiloD]

CLL cases are definitely trickier to recognize with the same amount practice, but it has other advantages...namely less/shorter algs and eliminates a step in roux and 2x2.

 

[cincyaviation]

CLL cases are definitely trickier to recognize with the same amount practice, but it has other advantages...namely less/shorter algs and eliminates a step in roux and 2x2.

that really had nothing to do with the main post...

 

[darthyody]

CLL doesn't affect OLL recognition at all...

What?
How on earth could it hurt your OLL?

Once someone starts learning CLL after already knowing OLL, it will start to make you look at the corners more. Once the brain has been conditioned into looking at corners for a CLL algorithm, then when the said someone goes back to using OLL algs, their mind might go blank for a second while realizing which pieces to look at (corners or entire LL) once at the OLL stage. Is this really that confusing to understand why the two sets might interfere with each other?

are you talking about 2x2 CLL or CMLL or CoLL?

I was just going to learn CMLL. Since those algs work both with Roux and 2x2. I know that some of them are longer when using them on the 2x2, but I won't worry about that until I know all the cases well enough to care.

 

[oprah62]

no

 

[Kirjava]

Once someone starts learning CLL after already knowing OLL, it will start to make you look at the corners more. Once the brain has been conditioned into looking at corners for a CLL algorithm, then when the said someone goes back to using OLL algs, their mind might go blank for a second while realizing which pieces to look at (corners or entire LL) once at the OLL stage. Is this really that confusing to understand why the two sets might interfere with each other?

This doesn't happen to me when I do OLL.

 

[joey]

It happens to me that I actually notice the corners more during OLL (after learning CLL), but it doesn't slow it down at all.

 

[Escher]

It happens to me that I actually notice the corners more during OLL (after learning CLL), but it doesn't slow it down at all.

^This.
After a while, I learnt how my some of my OLLs affected corners/which corner cases they solved so I could predict the PLL type and where the two correct corners would be, which really improved PLL recognition.

 

[amostay2004]

It happens to me that I actually notice the corners more during OLL (after learning CLL), but it doesn't slow it down at all.

^This.
After a while, I learnt how my some of my OLLs affected corners/which corner cases they solved so I could predict the PLL type and where the two correct corners would be, which really improved PLL recognition.

This happens to me only for all edges oriented OLLs where the corners are more 'standing out'. And yea it doesn't make recognition slower, it gives you better PLL prediction.

 

[Zarxrax]

Once someone starts learning CLL after already knowing OLL, it will start to make you look at the corners more. Once the brain has been conditioned into looking at corners for a CLL algorithm, then when the said someone goes back to using OLL algs, their mind might go blank for a second while realizing which pieces to look at (corners or entire LL) once at the OLL stage. Is this really that confusing to understand why the two sets might interfere with each other?

It seems equivalent to asking "will learning OLL interfere with PLL recognition?"
Sure, you are looking at some of the same pieces, but you are looking for completely different things, and with different goals.
When you go to solve an OLL, you aren't going to accidentally do a CLL recognition any more than you would accidentally do a PLL recognition...

 

[Daniel Wu]

It happens to me that I actually notice the corners more during OLL (after learning CLL), but it doesn't slow it down at all.

^This.
After a while, I learnt how my some of my OLLs affected corners/which corner cases they solved so I could predict the PLL type and where the two correct corners would be, which really improved PLL recognition.

This happens to me only for all edges oriented OLLs where the corners are more 'standing out'. And yea it doesn't make recognition slower, it gives you better PLL prediction.

Same. I start to notice when all the corners are going to be solved while doing OLL, get all excited, ... and then mess up a U perm.

 

[darthyody]

It happens to me that I actually notice the corners more during OLL (after learning CLL), but it doesn't slow it down at all.

^This.
After a while, I learnt how my some of my OLLs affected corners/which corner cases they solved so I could predict the PLL type and where the two correct corners would be, which really improved PLL recognition.

This happens to me only for all edges oriented OLLs where the corners are more 'standing out'. And yea it doesn't make recognition slower, it gives you better PLL prediction.

Cool. That was an answer that I was not expecting in the slightest. Well, this definitely answers my question and also now I'm a little more excited about learning CLL.