New to speedcubing

[hobby boy]

hi all
i'm quite new to speedcubing and i just want to find out how to solve my 3x3 faster (at the moment i've got a whizz toys 3x3 cube to practice on before i get a new rubiks cube as the old one broke ) I lubricated it and i have noticed its easier to turn.
Also has anyone got a recommended speedcubing method??

Andrew

 

[Edward]

inb4 fridrich

Welcome btw B3

 

[EnterPseudonym]

well ima ninja and say try many methods. Find the one you like the most then get better with it

 

[Chapuunka]

Fridrich is the most common (also known as CFOP).

ZZ has potential to be super fast but also has a crap ton of algs to learn.

Roux is gaining popularity; uses blockbuilding and M-slices more.

Petrus isn't very common; uses blockbuilding

It's very possible to get sub-20 with any of these (and more) but Fridrich and Roux are the most popular.

 

[Escher]

ZZ has potential to be super fast but also has a crap ton of algs to learn.

Now now, remember there is a distinction between ZZ and ZB, and 'last layer methods' and 'full methods'

@OP: If you're new to speedcubing I suggest you browse around some old topics here and on the wiki to get a feel of the methods that are used.

 

[gavnasty]

Fingertricks. Integrate all the algorithms you know into muscle memory so you're barely thinking while solving.

 

[Owen]

Roux is gaining popularity; uses blockbuilding and M-slices more.

I like M moves.

 

[ben1996123]

Roux is gaining popularity; uses blockbuilding and M-slices more.

I like M moves.

I like M2 moves.

 

[Cride5]

ZZ has potential to be super fast but also has a crap ton of algs to learn.

What a ton of crap :rolleyes:

ZZ has much fewer algs to learn than Fridrich for a 2-look last layer ... as in 28 for OCLL/PLL, compared to the 78 required for full OLL/PLL!

 

[Sharkretriver]

Fridrich is the most common (also known as CFOP).

ZZ has potential to be super fast but also has a crap ton of algs to learn.

I don't know much about ZZ :fp but isn't there an EOline that takes FOREVER to master?


@hobby boy
And if you need any help go to the wiki!
CFOP: cross, corner-edge pair X4, orientation of last layer, permutation of last layer, basically the most common method
Petrus: blockbuilding to achieve 2X2X3, edge flips, 2-gen corner-edge pair X2, COLL or just orientation of last layer, EPLL or just permutation of last layer, a lot of R and U face turns, which can be preformed very quickly
Roux: blockbuilding, CLL, and then all this M U stuff, very fast if you're good at blockbuilding and M and U turns
I'll add more later, Ask questions if you can't understand anything, it wont hurt.

 

[CubesOfTheWorld]

Fridrich is probably the fastest on average. It has over 100 algs to learn, but you will find it easier than you think.

 

[Sharkretriver]

Fridrich is probably the fastest on average. It has over 100 algs to learn, but you will find it easier than you think.

Intuitive f2l!
IT'S HEAVY DUTY TIME
THE ZB METHOD!!! sry bout the spam there everyone!

 

[riffz]

ZZ has potential to be super fast but also has a crap ton of algs to learn.

What a ton of crap :rolleyes:

ZZ has much fewer algs to learn than Fridrich for a 2-look last layer ... as in 28 for OCLL/PLL, compared to the 78 required for full OLL/PLL!

But ideally you should probably learn COLL (40 instead of 7).

I wouldn't exactly recommend ZZ for a beginners method unless you're willing to work hard to master EOLine though.

 

[Kirjava]

Petrus isn't very common

Disagree. I'd say it's the second most popular method.

 

[Sharkretriver]

ZZ has potential to be super fast but also has a crap ton of algs to learn.

What a ton of crap :rolleyes:

ZZ has much fewer algs to learn than Fridrich for a 2-look last layer ... as in 28 for OCLL/PLL, compared to the 78 required for full OLL/PLL!

But ideally you should probably learn COLL (40 instead of 7).

I wouldn't exactly recommend ZZ for a beginners method unless you're willing to work hard to master EOLine though.

excatly! the EOLine is pretty darn complicated and is a HUGE disadvantage for bigcubes! And is ZZ like this:
1. EOLine
2. 3-gen F2L
3. OLL
4. PLL
or is it one of those special things ?
3'. COLL/ZBLL
4'. EPLL/solved
I really need to review alotof methods

 

[Sharkretriver]

Petrus isn't very common

Disagree. I'd say it's the second most popular method.

Really? I thought Roux was, maybe it was third...

 

[AvidCuber]

I use Petrus sometimes if I don't feel like using Fridrich...I'm not quite as fast with it (perhaps 50 seconds-1 minute), but practice makes you better at everything.

My advice is to learn intuitive F2L and then practice like crazy.

 

[Cride5]

ZZ has potential to be super fast but also has a crap ton of algs to learn.

What a ton of crap :rolleyes:

ZZ has much fewer algs to learn than Fridrich for a 2-look last layer ... as in 28 for OCLL/PLL, compared to the 78 required for full OLL/PLL!

But ideally you should probably learn COLL (40 instead of 7).

I wouldn't exactly recommend ZZ for a beginners method unless you're willing to work hard to master EOLine though.

I'm not sure if COLL/EPLL is necessarily an advantage over OCLL/PLL. For your slower OCLL's it probably is, but I don't see an advantage in using COLL for cases like sune/anti-sune. Currently I use a mix of the two which I think for me personally is fastest. That said, OCLL/PLL is still very fast and will most likely out preform CFOP's OLL/PLL, while using just over a third of the algs.

I won't deny that EOLine is difficult, but what's wrong with starting with EO+Line? It's not like beginners start Fridrich with XCross!



@Sharkretriver, you don't use OLL/PLL in ZZ ... it's OCLL/PLL (big difference).

Petrus isn't very common

Disagree. I'd say it's the second most popular method.

Me too. And so does this poll.

 

[waffle=ijm]

Petrus isn't very common

Disagree. I'd say it's the second most popular method.

Really? I thought Roux was, maybe it was third...

LOL. Roux only recently became popular. More people use Petrus than Roux as well.

Fridrich is probably the fastest on average. It has over 100 algs to learn, but you will find it easier than you think.

LOL