US Nationals 2011 planning thread

[JBCM627]

I'm just afraid that a venue with such a large of amount of people passing through would lead to a lot of incidents of spectator interference.

Besides "Oooh"'s, "Aaah"'s, and clapping I don't see how. The competitor area would presumably be roped off, on a stage, or something similar. Actually I've been looking into buying a couple queue stanchions just for normal competitions...

 

[CubesOfTheWorld]

What makes Detroit such a bad idea? We could have it at The COBO Center.

 

[JTW2007]

Besides "Oooh"'s, "Aaah"'s, and clapping I don't see how.

I, for one, would be severely annoyed and subsequently distracted by that.

 

[JBCM627]

Besides "Oooh"'s, "Aaah"'s, and clapping I don't see how.

I, for one, would be severely annoyed and subsequently distracted by that.

BLD, perhaps I can see that. But a speedsolve? What, is it going to break your concentration? A competition really isn't the place to be spending time consciously thinking through a speedsolve. Tiger wood's brain during a putt: flat line.

 

[Logan]

MOA sounds like a great option! I could help set up, get things arranged, judge, scramble, maybe pay, and do pretty much anything you need! This all depends on the date though (ie, the summer, or near a vacation date would be good for me to help).

 

[Tyson]

"That being said, a possible increase in sponsorship would be nice, but only if the competitors get to see some of that money."

I do want to note that the distributors for European competitions sponsor the competitions to the point where their budget is more than 20 times ours.

As much as I'd like to give out prize money for the competition winners, we won't get anywhere close to that unless we had a three time increase in our budget and sponsorship.

David, you weren't at Worlds, but they hired a dance troupe to perform, and I think that cost something like 10k or 20k Euros or something just stupid like that. If they spent that much money (okay... maybe it was 5k Euros, but does that change anything?) on a dance troupe in the middle of the competition, how much do you think the entire thing cost?

 

[TheMachanga]

If most cubers live in California, why not have it in California? =)

Last year it was in Stanford.

 

[bluecloe45]

how bout in New York, exciting,publicity,probably an open university

 

[Tyson]

how bout in New York, exciting,publicity,probably an open university

How about you make the reservation?

 

[TheMachanga]

how bout in New York, exciting,publicity,probably an open university

This year it's already in the northeast. (Cambridge)

 

[DavidWoner]

"That being said, a possible increase in sponsorship would be nice, but only if the competitors get to see some of that money."

I do want to note that the distributors for European competitions sponsor the competitions to the point where their budget is more than 20 times ours.

As much as I'd like to give out prize money for the competition winners, we won't get anywhere close to that unless we had a three time increase in our budget and sponsorship.

David, you weren't at Worlds, but they hired a dance troupe to perform, and I think that cost something like 10k or 20k Euros or something just stupid like that. If they spent that much money (okay... maybe it was 5k Euros, but does that change anything?) on a dance troupe in the middle of the competition, how much do you think the entire thing cost?

Yes I am aware of the somewhat frivolous spending at WC last year, we discussed it while we were waiting at the airport after Nats. That's actually what I was referring to. I think any funds beyond what is necessary to run the competition should go back to the competitors instead of unnecessary frills. This is why I am opposed to having it in places like Seattle or St Louis, where there is no established organizational team, because paying to transport a competent team is silly when you can just have the competition near them.

 

[Bryan]

What makes Detroit such a bad idea? We could have it at The COBO Center.

What are the rates?

soewhere towards the middle of the US, so thats its not too far from places like New York by being somewhere like California

Once you get a certain distance, "too far" doesn't matter anymore, because you'll most likely be flying anyway.

I'm just afraid that a venue with such a large of amount of people passing through would lead to a lot of incidents of spectator interference.

Besides "Oooh"'s, "Aaah"'s, and clapping I don't see how. The competitor area would presumably be roped off, on a stage, or something similar. Actually I've been looking into buying a couple queue stanchions just for normal competitions...

MOA is not like Atlanta Underground. Many of the events I've seen they'll end up roping off the seating area. You're not going to get homeless people in your face like in Atlanta.

 

[Ethan Rosen]

What makes Detroit such a bad idea? We could have it at The COBO Center.

Every city has convention centers. Detroit is scary.

 

[JTW2007]

BLD, perhaps I can see that. But a speedsolve? What, is it going to break your concentration? A competition really isn't the place to be spending time consciously thinking through a speedsolve. Tiger wood's brain during a putt: flat line.

Admittedly, the fact that a large number of spectators would throw me off is personal flaw. That said, I still think that I speak for more than just me when I say that having a lot of clapping and such going on during solves would be of moderate annoyance.

 

[Tyson]

Proposed format for finals...

Final contestants locked up behind the stage. They draw cards/straws/pick numbers/whatever. (Maybe John George hands out the cards...) Order is determined.

Competitor comes out one at a time and does all 5 solves in succession. That way, we don't have people complaining about order because it was random, or clapping or distractions because you're the only one on stage.

Non-competing competitors to be behind the stage so they don't see any of the solves. That way, no one has an information advantage. You get information after you are done solving, but by then, it's useless for you.

Er... don't respond to this here. If you're going to respond to this, do it in the US 2010 thread.

 

[Hadley4000]

A good, centralized location, with a decent sized cubing community and easy accessibility would be somewhere in Texas.

 

[JBCM627]

A good, centralized location, with a decent sized cubing community and easy accessibility would be somewhere in Texas.

This is a good point. But if it is in Texas, can we have it in February?

 

[TeddyKGB]

What makes Detroit such a bad idea? We could have it at The COBO Center.

Every city has convention centers. Detroit is scary.

There's nothing scary about Detroit I've been there hundreds of times, it just has a bad reputation.

 

[MichaelP.]

A good, centralized location, with a decent sized cubing community and easy accessibility would be somewhere in Texas.

This is a good point. But if it is in Texas, can we have it in February?

I'm not totally sure what you're getting at, but now that Texas has been mentioned, I'd like to do what I can to help out if we decide it should be here.

 

[ottothedog]

A good, centralized location, with a decent sized cubing community and easy accessibility would be somewhere in Texas.

This is a good point. But if it is in Texas, can we have it in February?

I'm not totally sure what you're getting at, but now that Texas has been mentioned, I'd like to do what I can to help out if we decide it should be here.

Would be awesome in Texas (yay no traveling), I am also willing to help out with having the competition if it was here.