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Weekly competition 2010-19

3x3x3 multiBLD: 10/10 = 10 points, 56:03.06 [37:33]

Wow! I wish I could do this well at multi! Well done! :) This motivates me to do more than 2 cubes tonight (nowhere near 10 though!)

A 5x5x5 is about like doing 4 cubes, so I'm sure you could handle that many easily tonight. I bet with a few weeks practice you could be doing 10 too. It only took blah about that long (except he jumped all the way to 12), and he improved at about the same rate as you on big cubes BLD.

You kids these days are just too good for me. But it's fun to try to keep up! :D
 
3x3x3 multiBLD: 10/10 = 10 points, 56:03.06 [37:33]

Wow! I wish I could do this well at multi! Well done! :) This motivates me to do more than 2 cubes tonight (nowhere near 10 though!)

A 5x5x5 is about like doing 4 cubes, so I'm sure you could handle that many easily tonight. I bet with a few weeks practice you could be doing 10 too. It only took blah about that long (except he jumped all the way to 12), and he improved at about the same rate as you on big cubes BLD.

You kids these days are just too good for me. But it's fun to try to keep up! :D

I might go for 5 just for fun. I tried 4 back in December or January but only got 2/4 (in some ridiculously slow time), so I'll try going to 5 now. Nice to be called a 'kid' for once - I'm certainly older (21) than the majority on here :)
 
fmc: F L2 U2 R2 D2 L2 U' R U' B' U2 B2 U B' R B R' U2 R' U R U' R' U R U' D (27)

Explanation:
pre-scramble move D
F2L-1: F L2 U2 R2 D2 L2 U' R U' B' U2 B2 (12)
extra bock: U B' R B R' (17)
F2L + LL: U2 R' U R U' R' U R U' (26)
pre-move correction: D (27)

I found a 10-move F2L-1 (premove [D] + F R2 D2 R2 U2 R' B U' B) but no good continuation within time.

Gus
 
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Mike Hughey:
3x3x3 multiBLD: 10/10 = 10 points, 56:03.06 [37:33]
Comment: This felt really nice - I needed a success to regain confidence, so I took extra time memorizing. Multi is so much easier if you take time to refresh memory all the way through a couple of times before beginning to solve. This was my first success with my 5 new rooms - it was nice to finally get one with them. I'm very happy with how they turned out.

Wow, impressive Mike!

I'm going for 7 cubes this weekend at Karlstad Open in Sweden. I've gotten 6/7 in 34:42 at home so soon I'm gonna try ten cubes too. I just need to make some new memo paths. I've been hooked on BLD lately. It's a really funny challenge, and I didn't think I could be able to memorize so much information a few months ago.
 
fmc: F L2 U2 R2 D2 L2 U' R U' B' U2 B2 U B' R B R' U2 R' U R U' R' U R U' D (27)

Explanation:
pre-scramble move D
F2L-1: F L2 U2 R2 D2 L2 U' R U' B' U2 B2 (12)
extra bock: U B' R B R' (17)
F2L + LL: U2 R' U R U' R' U R U' (26)
pre-move correction: D (27)

I found a 10-move F2L-1 (premove [D] + F R2 D2 R2 U2 R' B U' B) but no good continuation within time.

Gus


That solution is wow.
 
2x2x2: (3.96), (5.96), 4.66, 5.44, 5.16 = 5.09
3x3x3: (13.61), 14.66, 15.15, (16.08), 15.33 = 15.05
Crazy for me. Didn't manage to roll to a sub-15 avg12 though :(
4x4x4: (1:05.00), 1:07.87, 1:09.92, (1:13.24), 1:06.75 = 1:08.18
5x5x5: (2:19.08), 2:25.65, 2:25.69, (2:27.86), 2:19.64 = 2:23.66
7x7x7: 7:46.55, 7:47.98, (7:34.54), 7:35.62, 7:58.53 = 7:43.38
2x2x2BLD: DNF, 17.86+, 14.23 = 14.23
Both speedbld. 2nd one I just figured the CLL case and left myself with a +2. Last one I could see the AUF easily
3x3x3BLD: 2:04.54, 2:08.76, 2:06.89 = 2:04.54
Consistent eh?
4x4x4BLD: 7:43.23 [3:27.98]
5x5x5BLD: 13:20.29 [5:16.35], DNF, DNS = 13:20.29
:) Crazy memo on the first one, but had about a minute pause in the middle of execution which was a shame. I got lost half way through a centre comm on the 2nd scramble. Forgot to do the last one - might try it in a moment if I'm not too tired (2am now)
MultiBLD: 5/5 30:08.23 [20:10.45]
:) Nice and safe memo with lots of recalls. Slow execution for safety too - no need to rush really. I did 3 cubes with letters, 1 numbers, 1 visual. All Classic Pochmann except the numbers one (3OP). I executed in order apart from the visual one which I memoed last and executed first
OH: 27.67, 27.87, (28.63), 26.56, (24.56) = 27.37
Feet: (1:54.65), 1:53.13, 1:43.64, 1:36.80, (1:35.73) = 1:44.52
MTS: 56.43, (57.32), 53.42, (49.35), 50.87 = 53.57
2x2x2+3x3x3+4x4x4: 1:31.86
2x2x2+3x3x3+4x4x4+5x5x5: 3:57.49
Megaminx: 2:59.76, 2:59.16, 2:52.34, (2:46.89), (3:02.15) = 2:57.09
Pyraminx: 7.05, 7.38, 8.05, (6.90), (8.15) = 7.49
Square-1: (1:12.91), 41.65, 44.58, (33.97), 1:08.53 = 51.59
2 parities of course :p
Clock: 8.13, (8.09), 8.57, 8.32, (8.68) = 8.34
 
fmc: F L2 U2 R2 D2 L2 U' R U' B' U2 B2 U B' R B R' U2 R' U R U' R' U R U' D (27)

Explanation:
pre-scramble move D
F2L-1: F L2 U2 R2 D2 L2 U' R U' B' U2 B2 (12)
extra bock: U B' R B R' (17)
F2L + LL: U2 R' U R U' R' U R U' (26)
pre-move correction: D (27)

I found a 10-move F2L-1 (premove [D] + F R2 D2 R2 U2 R' B U' B) but no good continuation within time.

Gus

Darn, I was hoping to come first this time. Nice solution you got there.
 
2x2x2: (6.50), (11.17), 7.51, 8.88, 8.05 = 8.14
That was bad.
3x3x3: 17.71, 19.11, (20.27), (17.65), 19.44 = 18.75
4x4x4: 2:10.16, 2:00.41, (2:21.30), (1:57.79), 2:02.10 = 2:04.22
2x2x2 + 3x3x3 + 4x4x4 relay: = 2:31.66
3x3x3 OH: 34.00, 35.01, (33.40), (37.93), 33.66 = 34.22
Pyraminx: (23.78), 22.77, (10.78), 19.02, 16.86 = 19.55
2x2x2 BLD: DNF, 44.53, DNF = 44.53
3x3x3 BLD: DNF(2:19.85), DNF(1:18.09), 2:08.52 = 2:08.52
On the second I wasted too much time because I stuffed up the memo.
4x4x4 BLD: DNF(19:15), DNF, DNF(19:55) = DNF
8 centers (Know why), memorised wrong, 3 edges and 2 flipped corners. (corners explained not sure about the edges)
3x3 Multi BLD: = 1/2 (7:47.38)
Don't know why the first was off.
 
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Results week 19

Congratulations Simon again. But Daniel is getting closer :)

2x2x2(43)
  1. 2.72 fazrulz
  2. 2.77 SimonWestlund
  3. 2.94 Anthony
  4. 3.11 Edward_Lin
  5. 3.34 AdvanceFIN
  6. 3.37 Baian Liu
  7. 3.44 Hyprul 9-ty2
  8. 3.71 nlCuber22
  9. 3.80 Novriil
  10. 3.89 Edmund
  11. 4.12 Neo63
  12. 4.13 MTGjumper
  13. 5.07 cincyaviation
  14. 5.09 kinch2002
  15. 5.23 The Rubik Mai
  16. 5.46 04mucklowd
  17. 5.53 Evan Liu
  18. 5.53 cubedude7
  19. 5.72 Kian
  20. 5.78 sz35
  21. 6.22 Elliot
  22. 6.23 mande
  23. 6.97 'rio
  24. 7.07 Cride5
  25. 7.12 ManasijV
  26. 7.44 wsc78
  27. 7.48 Kenneth
  28. 7.60 sutty17
  29. 7.91 janelle
  30. 8.15 Zane_C
  31. 8.33 @uguste
  32. 8.76 Feryll
  33. 8.82 PeterV
  34. 9.08 pierrotlenageur
  35. 9.90 jamesdeanludlow
  36. 10.12 Lumej
  37. 11.10 bamboocha
  38. 12.07 jave
  39. 12.07 MichaelErskine
  40. 12.42 tres.60
  41. 26.04 Cubenovice
  42. 32.77 MatsBergsten
  43. DNF Sir E Brum
3x3x3 (54)
  1. 10.64 fazrulz
  2. 11.05 SimonWestlund
  3. 11.64 Anthony
  4. 12.05 The Rubik Mai
  5. 12.37 Yes, We Can!
  6. 12.51 AdvanceFIN
  7. 13.03 Hyprul 9-ty2
  8. 13.19 deathbypapercutz
  9. 13.29 MTGjumper
  10. 14.09 ManasijV
  11. 14.45 nlCuber22
  12. 14.50 Edward_Lin
  13. 15.05 kinch2002
  14. 15.68 Neo63
  15. 15.69 'rio
  16. 16.47 Edam
  17. 16.65 sz35
  18. 16.74 Kian
  19. 17.33 Baian Liu
  20. 17.59 Novriil
  21. 17.89 Cride5
  22. 18.08 04mucklowd
  23. 18.31 mande
  24. 18.31 cubedude7
  25. 18.34 Elliot
  26. 18.51 @uguste
  27. 18.75 Zane_C
  28. 18.85 pierrotlenageur
  29. 18.85 sutty17
  30. 18.92 gavnasty
  31. 19.56 Evan Liu
  32. 21.56 Sir E Brum
  33. 21.85 Feryll
  34. 21.99 jamesdeanludlow
  35. 23.99 Lumej
  36. 24.01 janelle
  37. 25.23 wsc78
  38. 25.52 bamboocha
  39. 25.84 dunpeal2064
  40. 26.85 coinman
  41. 28.33 PeterV
  42. 29.10 larf
  43. 29.96 jave
  44. 31.34 fiqnocchio
  45. 33.50 megaminxwin
  46. 35.57 kprox1994
  47. 36.31 MichaelErskine
  48. 41.23 tres.60
  49. 43.58 Kenneth
  50. 47.54 Cubenovice
  51. 50.30 Micael
  52. 1:00.27 MatsBergsten
  53. 1:04.85 desertbear
  54. DNF Kirjava
4x4x4(33)
  1. 48.14 fazrulz
  2. 51.43 SimonWestlund
  3. 52.31 rachmaninovian
  4. 53.10 Hyprul 9-ty2
  5. 56.67 Edward_Lin
  6. 1:01.68 The Rubik Mai
  7. 1:07.41 sz35
  8. 1:08.18 kinch2002
  9. 1:11.98 deathbypapercutz
  10. 1:12.16 pierrotlenageur
  11. 1:15.46 cubedude7
  12. 1:16.15 Kian
  13. 1:18.00 sutty17
  14. 1:23.03 Evan Liu
  15. 1:24.87 jamesdeanludlow
  16. 1:28.57 04mucklowd
  17. 1:30.13 Edam
  18. 1:34.28 @uguste
  19. 1:36.07 Novriil
  20. 1:40.46 'rio
  21. 1:43.34 Kenneth
  22. 1:44.01 ManasijV
  23. 1:45.15 jave
  24. 1:55.08 Lumej
  25. 2:04.22 Zane_C
  26. 2:06.54 larf
  27. 2:20.15 bamboocha
  28. 2:24.74 MichaelErskine
  29. 3:18.19 Sir E Brum
  30. 3:27.11 MatsBergsten
  31. 4:12.41 tres.60
  32. 5:59.09 Micael
  33. 7:05.81 Cubenovice
5x5x5(21)
  1. 1:17.26 fazrulz
  2. 1:39.72 SimonWestlund
  3. 1:42.87 Yes, We Can!
  4. 1:47.11 The Rubik Mai
  5. 1:57.28 Hyprul 9-ty2
  6. 1:59.50 sz35
  7. 2:16.33 cubedude7
  8. 2:22.65 04mucklowd
  9. 2:22.75 pierrotlenageur
  10. 2:23.66 kinch2002
  11. 2:24.71 sutty17
  12. 2:34.59 jamesdeanludlow
  13. 2:46.21 Edam
  14. 2:48.03 Novriil
  15. 3:15.98 Evan Liu
  16. 3:43.28 jave
  17. 4:12.26 Lumej
  18. 4:35.75 MichaelErskine
  19. 6:11.96 Sir E Brum
  20. 7:08.29 MatsBergsten
  21. 8:53.62 tres.60
6x6x6(6)
  1. 3:00.22 SimonWestlund
  2. 4:05.99 cubedude7
  3. 4:44.72 jamesdeanludlow
  4. 4:56.87 pierrotlenageur
  5. 4:58.07 sutty17
  6. DNF Mike Hughey
7x7x7(7)
  1. 5:01.26 SimonWestlund
  2. 6:41.13 cubedude7
  3. 7:27.61 jamesdeanludlow
  4. 7:43.38 kinch2002
  5. 7:50.76 sutty17
  6. 8:26.96 Mike Hughey
  7. 9:01.69 pierrotlenageur
3x3 one handed(32)
  1. 16.38 fazrulz
  2. 19.85 Hyprul 9-ty2
  3. 20.10 The Rubik Mai
  4. 20.93 SimonWestlund
  5. 23.74 deathbypapercutz
  6. 24.80 ManasijV
  7. 27.37 kinch2002
  8. 27.51 MTGjumper
  9. 28.03 Yes, We Can!
  10. 29.70 Neo63
  11. 30.55 Elliot
  12. 31.26 Kian
  13. 32.15 sz35
  14. 34.22 Zane_C
  15. 36.57 gavnasty
  16. 37.78 @uguste
  17. 38.75 mande
  18. 39.40 Evan Liu
  19. 41.83 'rio
  20. 42.38 sutty17
  21. 42.92 Baian Liu
  22. 46.18 04mucklowd
  23. 49.20 pierrotlenageur
  24. 52.32 cubedude7
  25. 54.97 Kenneth
  26. 55.94 bamboocha
  27. 56.13 janelle
  28. 1:03.58 jave
  29. 1:03.67 cincyaviation
  30. 1:04.22 Lumej
  31. 1:06.90 jamesdeanludlow
  32. 1:28.83 MichaelErskine
3x3 with feet(2)
  1. 1:44.52 kinch2002
  2. 2:10.59 SimonWestlund
2x2x2 Blindfolded(21)
  1. 7.07 SimonWestlund
  2. 8.31 fazrulz
  3. 14.23 kinch2002
  4. 17.39 Hyprul 9-ty2
  5. 18.29 MTGjumper
  6. 18.39 ManasijV
  7. 18.70 Evan Liu
  8. 22.88 Mike Hughey
  9. 24.29 cubedude7
  10. 24.72 Yes, We Can!
  11. 28.55 jamesdeanludlow
  12. 44.53 Zane_C
  13. 48.28 sz35
  14. 50.09 'rio
  15. 54.13 Neo63
  16. 1:13.00 Micael
  17. 2:32.44 Cride5
  18. DNF pierrotlenageur
  19. DNF Edward_Lin
  20. DNF MatsBergsten
  21. DNF 04mucklowd
3x3x3 Blindfolded(18)
  1. 56.08 bint2d
  2. 1:13.08 ManasijV
  3. 1:16.84 fazrulz
  4. 1:26.96 SimonWestlund
  5. 1:32.62 x-colo-x
  6. 1:37.62 cubedude7
  7. 1:47.73 Gunnar
  8. 1:50.36 Mike Hughey
  9. 1:56.05 MatsBergsten
  10. 1:56.65 Hyprul 9-ty2
  11. 1:58.95 Micael
  12. 2:04.54 kinch2002
  13. 2:08.52 Zane_C
  14. 2:21.77 Yes, We Can!
  15. 2:41.71 Feryll
  16. 11:12.07 Cride5
  17. DNF aronpm
  18. DNF sz35
4x4x4 Blindfolded(10)
  1. 7:43.23 kinch2002
  2. 8:14.03 LarsN
  3. 8:26.00 MatsBergsten
  4. 9:43.52 Mike Hughey
  5. 10:12.09 SimonWestlund
  6. 16:09.42 Micael
  7. DNF Zane_C
  8. DNF aronpm
  9. DNF fazrulz
  10. DNF Yes, We Can!
5x5x5 Blindfolded(4)
  1. 13:20.29 kinch2002
  2. 16:12.85 Mike Hughey
  3. DNF MatsBergsten
  4. DNF LarsN
3x3 Multi blind(9)
  1. 10/10 Mike Hughey
  2. 11/14 Micael
  3. 5/5 kinch2002
  4. 3/3 Yes, We Can!
  5. 2/2 SimonWestlund
  6. 2/3 ManasijV
  7. 1/2 Zane_C
  8. 4/8 MatsBergsten
  9. 1/4 aronpm
3x3 Match the scramble(7)
  1. 53.57 kinch2002
  2. 1:11.74 SimonWestlund
  3. 1:37.35 pierrotlenageur
  4. 1:49.45 gavnasty
  5. 1:56.06 jamesdeanludlow
  6. 1:56.69 deathbypapercutz
  7. 3:20.54 jave
2-3-4 Relay(21)
  1. 1:02.54 fazrulz
  2. 1:10.24 SimonWestlund
  3. 1:25.93 Hyprul 9-ty2
  4. 1:28.15 The Rubik Mai
  5. 1:31.86 kinch2002
  6. 1:41.40 sz35
  7. 1:44.43 04mucklowd
  8. 1:45.83 pierrotlenageur
  9. 1:46.52 Evan Liu
  10. 1:48.91 cubedude7
  11. 1:55.20 sutty17
  12. 2:04.54 @uguste
  13. 2:07.89 jamesdeanludlow
  14. 2:08.09 Novriil
  15. 2:18.42 ManasijV
  16. 2:31.66 Zane_C
  17. 2:34.08 Lumej
  18. 2:39.33 jave
  19. 3:14.12 MichaelErskine
  20. 4:38.67 tres.60
  21. 5:30.98 MatsBergsten
2-3-4-5 Relay(13)
  1. 3:02.09 The Rubik Mai
  2. 3:02.83 SimonWestlund
  3. 3:24.26 Hyprul 9-ty2
  4. 3:57.49 kinch2002
  5. 4:16.34 sutty17
  6. 4:16.40 04mucklowd
  7. 4:24.22 pierrotlenageur
  8. 4:33.06 Novriil
  9. 4:40.83 Evan Liu
  10. 4:51.96 jamesdeanludlow
  11. 5:36.19 jave
  12. 5:55.78 Lumej
  13. 7:25.67 MichaelErskine
Magic(11)
  1. 1.15 sutty17
  2. 1.18 The Rubik Mai
  3. 1.28 Evan Liu
  4. 1.61 SimonWestlund
  5. 1.65 04mucklowd
  6. 1.75 jamesdeanludlow
  7. 2.33 pierrotlenageur
  8. 2.39 Lumej
  9. 2.47 wsc78
  10. 3.69 jave
  11. 24.76 Mike Hughey
Master Magic(5)
  1. 2.98 The Rubik Mai
  2. 3.06 jamesdeanludlow
  3. 4.04 04mucklowd
  4. 4.08 SimonWestlund
  5. 4.74 Mike Hughey
Clock(9)
  1. 8.34 kinch2002
  2. 10.73 SimonWestlund
  3. 13.06 cubedude7
  4. 16.23 jamesdeanludlow
  5. 18.15 Inf3rn0
  6. 22.95 fazrulz
  7. 23.67 Kian
  8. 26.90 pierrotlenageur
  9. 30.04 MichaelErskine
Pyraminx(20)
  1. 4.23 SimonWestlund
  2. 6.25 Neo63
  3. 6.92 Edward_Lin
  4. 7.12 fazrulz
  5. 7.49 kinch2002
  6. 8.94 cubedude7
  7. 9.80 The Rubik Mai
  8. 9.83 sutty17
  9. 10.06 Yes, We Can!
  10. 10.82 Kenneth
  11. 10.84 desertbear
  12. 11.22 larf
  13. 11.43 Kian
  14. 13.18 'rio
  15. 15.33 MichaelErskine
  16. 16.69 pierrotlenageur
  17. 16.86 jamesdeanludlow
  18. 19.55 Zane_C
  19. 28.71 kprox1994
  20. DNF Mike Hughey
Megaminx(9)
  1. 1:01.35 SimonWestlund
  2. 1:14.51 fazrulz
  3. 1:26.84 Hyprul 9-ty2
  4. 1:43.66 04mucklowd
  5. 2:10.29 cubedude7
  6. 2:57.09 kinch2002
  7. 3:19.42 jamesdeanludlow
  8. 3:24.25 sutty17
  9. 4:40.98 MichaelErskine
Square-1(11)
  1. 13.94 MTGjumper
  2. 20.07 SimonWestlund
  3. 26.50 fazrulz
  4. 26.53 cubedude7
  5. 39.09 Hyprul 9-ty2
  6. 45.62 @uguste
  7. 51.59 kinch2002
  8. 1:05.33 The Rubik Mai
  9. 1:19.19 jamesdeanludlow
  10. 1:22.10 jave
  11. 1:56.05 MichaelErskine
3x3x3 fewest moves(9)
  1. 27 guusrs
  2. 28 mande
  3. 30 'rio
  4. 30 Stini
  5. 34 Cride5
  6. 34 PM 1729
  7. 51 Sir E Brum
  8. 55 jamesdeanludlow
  9. 72 Tyjet66

Contest results
  1. 412 SimonWestlund
  2. 344 kinch2002
  3. 319 fazrulz
  4. 273 Hyprul 9-ty2
  5. 251 The Rubik Mai
  6. 242 cubedude7
  7. 192 jamesdeanludlow
  8. 181 sutty17
  9. 179 sz35
  10. 176 04mucklowd
  11. 175 ManasijV
  12. 175 pierrotlenageur
  13. 162 Evan Liu
  14. 160 Yes, We Can!
  15. 147 MTGjumper
  16. 145 Edward_Lin
  17. 139 'rio
  18. 137 Neo63
  19. 134 Zane_C
  20. 133 Kian
  21. 126 Novriil
  22. 117 deathbypapercutz
  23. 114 Mike Hughey
  24. 110 @uguste
  25. 98 Anthony
  26. 97 mande
  27. 95 Baian Liu
  28. 93 AdvanceFIN
  29. 90 Cride5
  30. 85 nlCuber22
  31. 84 Elliot
  32. 84 jave
  33. 81 Lumej
  34. 77 Edam
  35. 77 MatsBergsten
  36. 74 Micael
  37. 72 MichaelErskine
  38. 70 Kenneth
  39. 59 Sir E Brum
  40. 58 gavnasty
  41. 51 bamboocha
  42. 49 janelle
  43. 48 Feryll
  44. 45 wsc78
  45. 41 cincyaviation
  46. 39 larf
  47. 36 Edmund
  48. 35 rachmaninovian
  49. 33 tres.60
  50. 30 PeterV
  51. 26 LarsN
  52. 23 bint2d
  53. 19 dunpeal2064
  54. 19 guusrs
  55. 19 x-colo-x
  56. 18 coinman
  57. 18 Cubenovice
  58. 18 aronpm
  59. 17 Stini
  60. 17 Gunnar
  61. 17 desertbear
  62. 16 kprox1994
  63. 15 PM 1729
  64. 14 fiqnocchio
  65. 13 megaminxwin
  66. 11 Tyjet66
  67. 7 Inf3rn0
  68. 4 Kirjava
 
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Sorry again Mats :(

I just had to do one as warm-up for this weekend, but I've been really busy today and yesterday, so I havn't been able to do it untill now.

4x4 BLD: 10:12.09, DNS, DNS = 10:12.09 - meh :/
 
Eugh. I thought I had time to do sq1 tonight :(

Do them tonight and I will get both Simon'ses results tomorrow morning.

EDIT:
@Simon & Simon: I don't mind adding some late entries, it is totally ok. But with Mike at
the helm it is nowadays Thursdays to Wednesdays that is the schedule. We now rely on
him to post the new competitions on time. No one needs to wonder, 'Hmm, does the next
comp starts Wednesday or Thursday or Friday or Saturday??'

So Wednesday night is the last time to schedule doing events. Then if you don't make it
or just forget to post it is ok. (And as I said, it still is :))

@Mike: Splendid Multi :D

@Daniel: thanks, I may need it. The major question for the Karlstad competition is how
many new swedish NR:s Simon is going to get/set. (Do feel the pressure Simon :D)
 
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