OH Table Use [better poll]

[waffle=ijm]

table plz. people use the table all the time to align their cubes after some turns, its not just restricted to slices.

Here's a radical idea...use your hand to align your cube

why would I waste time aligning 1 or 2 layers when I can just put it against a table and align both at the same time?

 

[marthaurion]

because it kinda defeats the purpose of OH....

 

[Cyrus C.]

I always think of it as solving with one hand, & only one hand, no other objects.

 

[Tyjet66]

I'd say no turns, but if I get a lock up and I cant readjust with OH, ima slam the cube on the table to realign. And I don't want to be disqualified...

 

[endless_akatsuki]

if you can use the table for megaminx, why should OH be any different?

 

[Johannes91]

IMHO "[only one] hand" makes more sense than "only [one hand]". Using the floor when solving with feet or the table when doing magic isn't cheating, either.

 

[Samania]

no. one handed is one handed.

 

[ErikJ]

the point of one handed solving is to restrict your turning ability. having the table be ok to use sounds backwards to me.

 

[waffle=ijm]

IMHO "[only one] hand" makes more sense than "only [one hand]". Using the floor when solving with feet or the table when doing magic isn't cheating, either.

this.

if you can use the table for megaminx, why should OH be any different?

and this.

 

[Feryll]

table plz. people use the table all the time to align their cubes after some turns, its not just restricted to slices.

Here's a radical idea...use your hand to align your cube

why would I waste time aligning 1 or 2 layers when I can just put it against a table and align both at the same time?

why would I waste time aligning 1 or 2 layers when I can just use my other hand and align both at the same time?

 

[jackdexter75]

I think that kinda ruins the purpose of using ONE HAND... not OH+Table...

 

[Dene]

I vote "no". Kir can suck it amirite?

 

[Zane_C]

Although I do it sometimes if I get a bad lock, I will vote "no" because it beats the purpose of solving with one hand.

 

[PatrickT]

I don't see what the problem is. No one is fast at OH by using the table to turn...

 

[Tim Major]

I don't see what the problem is. No one is fast at OH by using the table to turn...

Heard of Dan Cohen? I'm trying to find a video where he uses the table a fair bit. I remember seeing it a few months ago. I voted no.

Edit: I guess the argument about foot solvers being allowed to use the ground is a fair point, and many pyraminx and megaminx solvers start turning while the puzzle is still on the ground. How would it be enforced? People want to pick up the cube and make moves fast, so often this is done before lifting the puzzle. Thinking this now, I wish I could change my vote.

 

[joey]

Dan doesn't turn with the table, just align.

 

[HenryJade]

C1a) During the solve the competitor must only use one hand. Penalty: disqualification of the solve.
C1b) During the solve no other body part or any object other than the surface must touch the puzzle. Penalty: disqualification of the solve.





no other body part or any object!!
no other body part or any object!!

mouth is one of our body part!!
table is an object!!

 

[joey]

It does say "other than the surface".

 

[incessantcheese]

actually, henry's post pointed something out to me.
the current set of rules seems to state that you canNOT use the surface to solve.

# C1a) During the solve the competitor must only use one hand. Penalty: disqualification of the solve.
# C1b) During the solve no other body part or any object other than the surface must touch the puzzle. Penalty: disqualification of the solve.

vs

# D1b) During the inspection and solve the competitor must only use his feet (with or without socks) and the surface. Penalty: disqualification of the solve.
# D1c) No other body parts or other available objects must touch the puzzle. Penalty: disqualification of the solve.

looking at C1a vs D1b, it seems perfectly clear that the current set of rules does not allow using the table to aid the solve. now just to establish rules about using the surface to align to the cube...

 

[whauk]

learn to do 90° + (or -) cornercutting-ability-of-your-cube moves all the time and you will never have to use the table. if you cant do it OH ist not the right thing for you.

i mean i sometimes do it too but its kinda stupid.