Mariah94
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Well, congradulations me, I've just finished memorizing two step oll and pll. So, where should I go from here?
Oll and pll- where to start
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Innocence
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You could practise them for a couple of weeks, and get your F2L better, if you already have learned Intuitive F2L.
After that, you can start full PLL I guess. I didn't take that long to start PLL after I learned the 2-looks.
After that, you can start full PLL I guess. I didn't take that long to start PLL after I learned the 2-looks.
Cubenovice
Forever Slow
Congratulations!
I suggest working up to 1 look PLL and in the meantime also already studing some of the easy to recognize OLL's like dot-, bar- and T-patterns.
That what I am currently doing
I suggest working up to 1 look PLL and in the meantime also already studing some of the easy to recognize OLL's like dot-, bar- and T-patterns.
That what I am currently doing
Rpotts
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Intuitive F2l, then Full PLL, starting with U, A, H, Z, E, T, J.
Also, learn some easy oll's, like the square shapes and their inverses (double layer sune cases) and the olls with no oriented edges, because they take 3 algs if you do 2 look oll.
Also, make sure you solve cross in <5 seconds, and do f2l efficiently, both in move count and ease of turning, (few to no cube rotations).
Also, learn some easy oll's, like the square shapes and their inverses (double layer sune cases) and the olls with no oriented edges, because they take 3 algs if you do 2 look oll.
Also, make sure you solve cross in <5 seconds, and do f2l efficiently, both in move count and ease of turning, (few to no cube rotations).
jackdexter75
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This is off topic but what is your signature from?
On topic- what every else just said. f2l, Full pll, and then MORE AND MORE f2l, and then Oll.
On topic- what every else just said. f2l, Full pll, and then MORE AND MORE f2l, and then Oll.
Mariah94
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Well the cross is definitly my weekest point. F2L I am pretty confident about though and have it intuitive already. So start pll before oll?
Mariah94
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jackdexter75
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OMg that's what I was going to say. They are great guys( and gals). the came to my town and I got to talking with them cause they were where i work. AWESOME BAND!!
Mariah94
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Oh jealousy if flowing from my veins. You met them? All? lucky!! I've seen them three times and the one chance I got to meet them I had a softball tournent
gay, but my friend called me and I got to talk to John
gay, but my friend called me and I got to talk to John
jackdexter75
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Yah they is great. they were here recenlty but I didn't make it. But they are so good. I love their new album. It's great. That's awesome. =D what other bands do you like... I feel like I totally changed the topic of this thread sorry
Mariah94
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The new album is not my favorite, but not the worst either. Other bands, Emery and the rasmus fall under the favorite favorite favorite with skillet. And then there's Toby mac, thousand foot krutch, red, hawk Nelson, David cook, avenged sevenfold. Etc. I'm just naming my playlist off the top of my head lol. Pretty much, if they're Christian, and rockin' then I like them. But I do listen to non Christian too. Lol. You?
jackdexter75
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You just described me wow. OMg Emery is definitely my favorite band ever. I'm very loyal to them. I saw the also at the same place and hung out with them too. they are on tour and are coming back on the 28th of May and I'm going again.. YAY
I listen to mostly Christian. some non christian. but I like a band for how nice they are in person also. some bands a just jerks at concerts and just cuss at you the whole time
oh oh oh I met Hawk Nelson too.
I listen to mostly Christian. some non christian. but I like a band for how nice they are in person also. some bands a just jerks at concerts and just cuss at you the whole time
oh oh oh I met Hawk Nelson too.
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Dene
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I'd suggest learning to use a spellcheck.
Other than that, MAOR PRACTISE. (And you may as well finish PLL).
Innocence
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Hehe, I like the way everyone assumes that 2-Look OLL/PLL comes before F2L.
I had F2L down WAY before I started an advanced last layer. Like a full 2 weeks.
I didn't literally mean EVERYONE.
I had F2L down WAY before I started an advanced last layer. Like a full 2 weeks.
I didn't literally mean EVERYONE.
RyanO
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Hehe, I like the way everyone assumes that 2-Look OLL/PLL comes before F2L.
I had F2L down WAY before I started an advanced last layer. Like a full 2 weeks.
Lol at having F2L down after 2 weeks. anyway, depending on your beginners method, advanced LL can cut off more time than F2L. I did learn F2L before advanced LL, but I certainly saw more immediate improvement from advanced LL.
One thing I would suggest is to find good algorithms. When I first started learning advanced LL I just pulled all the algs from one site because it was easy and convenient. I'm in the process of replacing pretty much all of those algs with better ones and I keep regretting that I didn't find good algs from the start. For example, I still use a non 2 gen sune and I use B U L U' L' B' for adjacent edge EO.
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Innocence
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Hehe, I like the way everyone assumes that 2-Look OLL/PLL comes before F2L.
I had F2L down WAY before I started an advanced last layer. Like a full 2 weeks.
Lol at having F2L down after 2 weeks. anyway, depending on your beginners method, advanced LL can cut off more time than F2L. I did learn F2L before advanced LL, but I certainly saw more immediate improvement from advanced LL.
One thing I would suggest is to find good algorithms. When I first started learning advanced LL I just pulled all the algs from one site because it was easy and convenient. I'm in the process of replacing pretty much all of those algs with better ones and I keep regretting that I didn't find good algs from the start. For example, I still use a non 2 gen sune and I use B U L U' L' B' for adjacent edge EO.
I meant F2L down 2 weeks before 2LOLL+2LPLL. I know advanced LL can cut off more time, that's why I knew 1LOLL at 25 second average.
. I just didn't know that at the time.On non-2 gen sune(Not really sune, but it is for OLL purposes): R U' L' U R' U' L is wicked fast. (I think I got that right.)
My PB for it is like 0.6x. I'm not saying it's faster than normal sune, but it is definitely as fast.
RyanO
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That's the "sune" I use. It is pretty fast and I don't plan on discarding it completely, but I want to work in the real sune to influence PLL.
Innocence
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I'm kind of in the habit of using the real sune atm because of 2-gen stuff, I want to use them both evenly though. This won't really apply for too long though, once I learn the sune subset of COLL.
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maybe after that u should try to learn advanced f2l if u've already known it. Then learn how to look-ahead. Also u should learn how to do the advanced x-cross (it is very hard though)
IF u can do the f2l well the rest is easy. First learn the full pll. Then just finish all the cases of the oll.
IF u can do the f2l well the rest is easy. First learn the full pll. Then just finish all the cases of the oll.
RyanO
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I really don't think x cross is worth it unless it's an easy case.
