Do useless activities/objects have a value?

[kprox1994]

Really old people have no value at all.
Hadicapped people too. Yet, we keep them alive as a burden to our society. We give value to who is unefficient and useless.

Do you have any idea how ignorant and rood you are being? What if you said that in from of your grandparents? Do you think they have no value? Just because someone is old doesn't mean they aren't valuable. What if they happen be very intelligent. Same thing with HANDICAPPED, sure some of them can't do much, but they still offer something to society, they give people something more to explore the wonders of the word and how they act. And many handicapped people can do many other things, just because you are handicapped doesn't mean you can't do anything, there are many handicapped people that have offered a lot to society.

 

[DaijoCube]

Really old people have no value at all.
Hadicapped people too. Yet, we keep them alive as a burden to our society. We give value to who is unefficient and useless.

Do you have any idea how ignorant and rood you are being? What if you said that in from of your grandparents? Do you think they have no value? Just because someone is old doesn't mean they aren't valuable. What if they happen be very intelligent. Same thing with HANDICAPPED, sure some of them can't do much, but they still offer something to society, they give people something more to explore the wonders of the word and how they act. And many handicapped people can do many other things, just because you are handicapped doesn't mean you can't do anything, there are many handicapped people that have offered a lot to society.

You wanted to find a problem in what I said.

I said really old people. The ones that can't eat by themselves anymore. The ones that are prisoners of their bodies.

As for the handicapped people, I'm not saying the ones that can talk and have a missing arm. I mean REALLY handicapped persons that are almost vegetables.

 

[DT546]

art has value if it provokes feelings and emotions in other, because in many examples, photography has the power to start movements and possibly make a big, if not huge difference on goverment and/or society.
while i agree that some old people are of little value to society as a whole, they are important and sometimes essential to raising the next generation, could you honestly say that your own grandparents have never taught you anything about later life, or inspired to be passionate about something.
also, stephen hawking can donothing for himself, he is essentialy a vegetable, but he has made some of the biggest contributions to our understanding of blackholes, although he has been wrong on the odd occasion, but that's a whole other disscusion. if a soldier comes back from war severly wounded, wouldn't he be a living embodiment of all that is wrong with war, and maybe even get more people tojoin anti-war campaigns and play some part in making peace, surely bettering society in a positive way has value, so by that reasoning the only people who have no value are those that are jobless by choice, or comatose, or as you said prisoners to their own body

 

[koreancuber]

No, the Bump thread has no value.

 

[Feryll]

Really old people have no value at all.
Hadicapped people too. Yet, we keep them alive as a burden to our society. We give value to who is unefficient and useless.

Do you have any idea how ignorant and rood you are being? What if you said that in from of your grandparents? Do you think they have no value? Just because someone is old doesn't mean they aren't valuable. What if they happen be very intelligent. Same thing with HANDICAPPED, sure some of them can't do much, but they still offer something to society, they give people something more to explore the wonders of the word and how they act. And many handicapped people can do many other things, just because you are handicapped doesn't mean you can't do anything, there are many handicapped people that have offered a lot to society.

You wanted to find a problem in what I said.

I said really old people. The ones that can't eat by themselves anymore. The ones that are prisoners of their bodies.

As for the handicapped people, I'm not saying the ones that can talk and have a missing arm. I mean REALLY handicapped persons that are almost vegetables.

That belongs in the euthanasia thread

But if they don't want to die, it's because they have done enough usefulness to earn some years of retirement and being useless.

 

[DaijoCube]

art has value if it provokes feelings and emotions in other, because in many examples, photography has the power to start movements and possibly make a big, if not huge difference on goverment and/or society.
while i agree that some old people are of little value to society as a whole, they are important and sometimes essential to raising the next generation, could you honestly say that your own grandparents have never taught you anything about later life, or inspired to be passionate about something.

I could honestly say they did not. But, that is not the point. I'm talking about really old people. I, personally, would not want to become this old, only eat potatoes, not be able to remember a thing...
A photo is not necessarily art.

 

[DaijoCube]

Really old people have no value at all.
Hadicapped people too. Yet, we keep them alive as a burden to our society. We give value to who is unefficient and useless.

Do you have any idea how ignorant and rood you are being? What if you said that in from of your grandparents? Do you think they have no value? Just because someone is old doesn't mean they aren't valuable. What if they happen be very intelligent. Same thing with HANDICAPPED, sure some of them can't do much, but they still offer something to society, they give people something more to explore the wonders of the word and how they act. And many handicapped people can do many other things, just because you are handicapped doesn't mean you can't do anything, there are many handicapped people that have offered a lot to society.

You wanted to find a problem in what I said.

I said really old people. The ones that can't eat by themselves anymore. The ones that are prisoners of their bodies.

As for the handicapped people, I'm not saying the ones that can talk and have a missing arm. I mean REALLY handicapped persons that are almost vegetables.

That belongs in the euthanasia thread

But if they don't want to die, it's because they have done enough usefulness to earn some years of retirement and being useless.

At the point that I'm talking about, it's when they are not able to tell you if they want to die or not.

 

[Chapuunka]

I think the biggest problem with this question is that value is relative, depending on the person. This has already been mentioned, but I agree 100%.

As for the "old people have no value," they can teach and lead others, even if not physically. "Vegetable" people can have some value, depending on how you interpret it: people who take care of them have a job and are making money off them, and some people may be inspired to work against "vegetable" diseases, giving them another goal to work for (and possible monetary value).

Though this is really low value to most people, I'd think most people could see some value.