X-Cube 7

[Stefan]

I think this is somehow disrespectfull to ask people to believe you just on what you say/show without actually thinking you have to prove that what you say is true.

Well, I'd say he is proving as much as he can without giving away the secret, and there's good reason (the cloners) to keep it secret for now. What would you do in his position?

 

[miniGOINGS]

I think this is somehow disrespectfull to ask people to believe you just on what you say/show without actually thinking you have to prove that what you say is true.

Well, I'd say he is proving as much as he can without giving away the secret, and there's good reason (the cloners) to keep it secret for now. What would you do in his position?

I think Stefan has a point. If he were to show enough proof to make you happy, people could easily copy his design.

I'm currently satisfied with what he's shown us.

 

[qqwref]

I think this is somehow disrespectfull to ask people to believe you just on what you say/show without actually thinking you have to prove that what you say is true.

However, I want to apologize xb27 for overreacting. It's not by playing to who's the stupidiest that we will go somewhere.

Look who's calling the kettle black - you don't think that calling literally everyone else in the topic stupid is disrespectful? Nobody's asking you to believe things - nobody! - xb27 is just providing the proof that he can offer at this time, and if you don't want to believe it then fine. Nobody cares what you think anyway... how many cubes would you buy if it was produced right now, one? two? I don't understand why you need to stoop so low as insulting everyone just because you have unreasonably high standards for believing something is true.

 

[deadalnix]

Well, I'd say he is proving as much as he can without giving away the secret, and there's good reason (the cloners) to keep it secret for now. What would you do in his position?

Well, I have thought about this. If xb27 can't say anything about the x-cube mecanism to avoid copy, he should give us information about some release dates/process. It would be much more credible if we can see that xb27 is investing into releasing the puzzle.

Or maybe he can have a deal with some chinese factory instead of being affraid of them. Actually, I'm not a specialist in producing puzzle, so I don't really know if this solution is a serious one.

 

[TCUBER]

IN the second video, you can clearly see that that 4x4 has a "V" On it, exactly like a v cube. except there is no V CUBE 4. And I just think that it is weird that its called an "X"cube. And also if there is one, where can I get one?

 

[Stefan]

he should give us information about some release dates/process.

You mean he "should" ... if he wants to please us, right? He has no obligation to us whatsoever. If he wants to give us more, he can, but he doesn't have to. If you're unsatisfied with what he's given us, that's pretty much your problem, not his. But yeah, with a "could" instead of "should", that's a concrete constructive suggestion. Not sure though whether he's able to make good predictions.

On youtube I got numerous comments on my popular megaminx video saying it's fake and requesting I do it again with a visible timer to "prove myself". Have I done that? No. Would be a waste of my time. And just because someone wants something from me, doesn't mean I have to or should do it.

And also if there is one, where can I get one?

I suggest you stop spamming us with your stupid website and spend the time reading instead. They're not available.

 

[DavidSanders]

And also if there is one, where can I get one?

I suggest you stop spamming us with your stupid website and spend the time reading instead. They're not available.

Thank you for saying this. This is exactly what I wanted to say to this kid.

 

[deadalnix]

If he wants to give us more, he can, but he doesn't have to. If you're unsatisfied with what he's given us, that's pretty much your problem, not his.

Obviously he don't have to tell us or release anything.

I see 3 possible situation here :
1/ This is just a big fake.
2/ This is not a fake, and the x-cubes cube will be released. In this case, some informations about the release process would be apreciated in order to take this seriously. These informations are not critical and will not help anybody to make copy.
3/ This is not a fake, and xb27 don't want to release anything. In this case, I maintain he is acting like an attention whore. (this is also the case for case 1/ in fact).

EDIT: This is true that he don't have to. By « he should » I meant « he should if he wanna be taken seriously ».

I don't know the video you are talking about. But This is a different case anyway. In the video case, it take a long time de do things again. In this case this is just saying something like « I have made some prototype, and think the industrial production will begin in about a year » or « I do not plan to release any of these cube because I don't want to », or anything that is taking less than a minute, and do not reveal critical informations.

 

[DavidSanders]

If he wants to give us more, he can, but he doesn't have to. If you're unsatisfied with what he's given us, that's pretty much your problem, not his.

Obviously he don't have to tell us or release anything.

I see 3 possible situation here :
1/ This is just a big fake.
2/ This is not a fake, and the x-cubes cube will be released. In this case, some informations about the release process would be apreciated in order to take this seriously. These informations are not critical and will not help anybody to make copy.
3/ This is not a fake, and xb27 don't want to release anything. In this case, I maintain he is acting like an attention whore. (this is also the case for case 1/ in fact).

I kind of feel like you are acting like an attention whore.
No offense, but you should stop posting in this thread before you lose all credibility.
We all make mistakes and we need to realize when to admit them and just give up.
(In case you did not know, your mistake was criticizing xb27 for an unnecessary reason.)

 

[Ranzha]

If he wants to give us more, he can, but he doesn't have to. If you're unsatisfied with what he's given us, that's pretty much your problem, not his.

Obviously he don't have to tell us or release anything.

I see 3 possible situation here :
1/ This is just a big fake.
2/ This is not a fake, and the x-cubes cube will be released. In this case, some informations about the release process would be apreciated in order to take this seriously. These informations are not critical and will not help anybody to make copy.
3/ This is not a fake, and xb27 don't want to release anything. In this case, I maintain he is acting like an attention whore. (this is also the case for case 1/ in fact).

EDIT: This is true that he don't have to. By « he should » I meant « he should if he wanna be taken seriously ».

I don't know the video you are talking about. But This is a different case anyway. In the video case, it take a long time de do things again. In this case this is just saying something like « I have made some prototype, and think the industrial production will begin in about a year » or « I do not plan to release any of these cube because I don't want to », or anything that is taking less than a minute, and do reveal critical informations.

You, sir, are the attention whore.
Please, don't try to argue that this guy doesn't have enough proof/evidence/what YOU want that the rest of us here do not necessarily want. Revealing more information is a want, not a need.
By coming back with ridiculous arguments, unjust criticisms, and quick and FALLACIOUS conclusions makes you unfit to argue.
As the person who posted above said,

Also, xb27 doesn't reveal critical information to avoid copying. That is okay. What xb27's trying to do is to show his new creation that defies what most people thought was impossible. By not showing the structure and keeping it under lock and key, he makes sure no one can copy it the exact same way, ever, unless the copier was a BAMF like that.

By revealing a puzzle and not revealing its structure, xb27 is not by any means an attention whore. If he were trying to intentionally get people to look at him and praise him, he would then be an attention whore. Because he is just showing a puzzle, he is thusly not an attention whore. QED.

I don't think these cubes should be mass-produced as of yet. Let time take its toll, and if xb27 doesn't want anyone to know, then that's his decision. We can't do anything to force him otherwise.

So, deadalnix, do you have anything more to say?

 

[deadalnix]

Yes, the "do" you bold was a mistake, I meant "do not". I understand your point, and it's why I'm now dealing with informations which are not puzzle relative (to not reveal critical informations).

Let's make a first agrrement point to avoid misunderstanding and flamming posts (And yes, I begun flamming posts, my bad, let's try to not repeat mistake).

Can we agree on the three following points case :
1/ This is a fake.
2/ This is not a fake, and will be released one day.
3/ This is not a fake, and will never be released.

And, we will be able to continue the discussion in a more quiet way, without actually flamming each others.

 

[Zarxrax]

It would be absolutely hilarious now, if xb27 came out and admitted that its actually an elaborate fake.

 

[Ranzha]

Yes, the "do" you bold was a mistake, I meant "do not". I understand your point, and it's why I'm now dealing with informations which are not puzzle relative (to not reveal critical informations).

Let's make a first agrrement point to avoid misunderstanding and flamming posts (And yes, I begun flamming posts, my bad, let's try to not repeat mistake).

Can we agree on the three following points case :
1/ This is a fake.
2/ This is not a fake, and will be released one day.
3/ This is not a fake, and will never be released.

And, we will be able to continue the discussion in a more quiet way, without actually flamming each others.

Those are three cases out of a wide span of minor cases.

It could be a fake! April Fool! But no. xb27 posted this BEFORE April 1st to get out of people thinking it's a fake.

I sincerely believe this is not a fake. Since doing a checker pattern and even a U-perm would require some comeuppance in the structure, and it didn't, that proves that since the corners stay in place, and each layer can move independently, it is a fully-functional cubic 7x7 and is thus not fake.

 

[Jake Gouldon]

Can these guys just stop raping the v-cubes company...

Who's raping v-cubes here? I'm pretty sure he said that this was not v-cube mechanism. V-cube mech can't even make cubic 7x7x7's.

I know a way that they can, basically it just involves extending the pieces, it's kind of hard to explain.

 

[deadalnix]

No it isn't that way. Except if the layer doesn't have the same size.

Anyway, you can virtually extend the internal part of a vcube corner to the external part using magnets. They can't join mecanically.

Another way is to allow center pieces to surelevate themselve to make a passage for the corner piece.

And again another way, is to grip the corner piece to the adjacent wings. But this would be terrible for speedcubing I guess.

Ranzha V. Emodrach > Can you says more about the wide span of minor cases ? Maybe we could redefine these cases in a smarter way.

 

[TCUBER]

No it isn't that way. Except if the layer doesn't have the same size.

Anyway, you can virtually extend the internal part of a vcube corner to the external part using magnets. They can't join mecanically.

Another way is to allow center pieces to surelevate themselve to make a passage for the corner piece.

And again another way, is to grip the corner piece to the adjacent wings. But this would be terrible for speedcubing I guess.

Ranzha V. Emodrach > Can you says more about the wide span of minor cases ? Maybe we could redefine these cases in a smarter way.

Maybe they can solve this by actually using same ends of a magnet in order to act as extending the piece?

 

[qqwref]

Can these guys just stop raping the v-cubes company...

Who's raping v-cubes here? I'm pretty sure he said that this was not v-cube mechanism. V-cube mech can't even make cubic 7x7x7's.

I know a way that they can, basically it just involves extending the pieces, it's kind of hard to explain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H52ZGRXMqWM

The layers aren't the same size, so it doesn't really count as fully cubic. You can do this with any NxNxN and as long as the outer layers are wide enough the whole thing can be made completely stable.

 

[Jake Gouldon]

Can these guys just stop raping the v-cubes company...

Who's raping v-cubes here? I'm pretty sure he said that this was not v-cube mechanism. V-cube mech can't even make cubic 7x7x7's.

I know a way that they can, basically it just involves extending the pieces, it's kind of hard to explain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H52ZGRXMqWM

The layers aren't the same size, so it doesn't really count as fully cubic. You can do this with any NxNxN and as long as the outer layers are wide enough the whole thing can be made completely stable.

Again, I am not sure how to explain this, but it is similar to this but fully cubic.

 

[Parity]

Can these guys just stop raping the v-cubes company...

Who's raping v-cubes here? I'm pretty sure he said that this was not v-cube mechanism. V-cube mech can't even make cubic 7x7x7's.

I know a way that they can, basically it just involves extending the pieces, it's kind of hard to explain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H52ZGRXMqWM

The layers aren't the same size, so it doesn't really count as fully cubic. You can do this with any NxNxN and as long as the outer layers are wide enough the whole thing can be made completely stable.

Again, I am not sure how to explain this, but it is similar to this but fully cubic.

So do you mean making it like tony's then shaving it until it is all the same shape?

 

[Jake Gouldon]

Can these guys just stop raping the v-cubes company...

Who's raping v-cubes here? I'm pretty sure he said that this was not v-cube mechanism. V-cube mech can't even make cubic 7x7x7's.

I know a way that they can, basically it just involves extending the pieces, it's kind of hard to explain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H52ZGRXMqWM

The layers aren't the same size, so it doesn't really count as fully cubic. You can do this with any NxNxN and as long as the outer layers are wide enough the whole thing can be made completely stable.

Again, I am not sure how to explain this, but it is similar to this but fully cubic.

So do you mean making it like tony's then shaving it until it is all the same shape?

No, that wouldn't work.