Cubing High on Marijuana

[dunpeal2064]

this is suppose to be a discussion about cubing while high on weed, not a weed how weed is bad for you or other stuff like that.

well it kinda changed pace when people started saying that I had bad parents =P NEVER TALK ABOUT MY MOMMA

but anyway, I will input on the cubing aspect, and my apologies for getting off topic.

I would say that I get slightly slower at fast paced puzzles like 3x3, 2x2, or pyra... but on the bigger puzzles I seem to get into it and really flow better, cutting off a good chunk of time.

Also, whether or not it makes me faster or slower, Cubing while high is definately fun as hell.

 

[RyanO]

I didn't say weed isn't addictive. I said that it isn't physically addictive, there is a difference. For many substances, heroin, cocain, meth, alcohol, caffein, etc., there are severe, even dangerous, detox symptoms that are not demonstrated when quitting prolonged THC use.

THC, like pretty much anything, can be psycologically addictive. Some people will develop a dependency on particular activities or substances in order to cope with their lives. I feel that this has little to do with the activity/substance. In these cases I would argue that people are addicted to blaming their problems on an outside force in order to absolve themselves of responsibility.

 

[miniGOINGS]

Haha, I still have yet to vote.

 

[dunpeal2064]

I didn't say weed isn't addictive. I said that it isn't physically addictive, there is a difference. For many substances, heroin, cocain, meth, alcohol, caffein, etc., there are severe, even dangerous, detox symptoms that are not demonstrated when quitting prolonged THC use.

THC, like pretty much anything, can be psycologically addictive. Some people will develop a dependency on particular activities or substances in order to cope with their lives. I feel that this has little to do with the activity/substance. In these cases I would argue that people are addicted to blaming their problems on an outside force in order to absolve themselves of responsibility.

I agree with this completely. Anything (especially cubing) can become addictive. I'd say weed even slightly more than most things, just because it gets you high. But this is the same addiction that applies to video games or food (actually, since eating and sex release dopamine into the system, these would be more addictive than weed).

Sorry to get off topic again, but I wanted to respond.

/offtopic

 

[andyt1992]

Because generally in private schools there is more money floating around.

ok, so because a school has more money the people there have a higher education rate? how does that make sense? Does the school just pass out weed to everyone with all their free money and then force them to do well in school? I'm sorry, I am just confused by your statement I suppose.

:fp
The kids have more money to play with, so as a kid spare cash must be spent, and usually you do whatever your told not too, e.g. dont do drugs, then you go and do it or more simply tell a kid no and they do the opposite.

@RyanO
I can see where you are coming from but you didnt show us any evidence

Yes alcohol would be illegal if it was invented now and yes it is dangerous, but the sad truth is the government make a lot of money out of it through taxes (same with tobacco) so don't make it illegal.
BUT
Much of what you use in your argument are common rumours.

You CAN OD on marijuana, but a fatal overdose is hard, whereas with alcohol a fatal OD is easier to come by.

Quote: Illicit drugs, used to get high, may be taken in overdose amounts when a person's metabolism cannot detoxify the drug fast enough to avoid unintended side effects. (e.g. being sick or "green")

Source: http://www.emedicinehealth.com/drug_overdose/article_em.htm

The problem with marijuana arguments is there are no unbiased accredited scientific journals that have been published.

Marijuana can cause violence, but again this study isnt accredited
Source: http://www.nebraskaprevlink.ne.gov/getthefacts/facts/marijuanaviolence.html

Marijuana isn't addicting in the sense of the word, where you're body cannot correctly function without it but it is habituating, this means you crave it and you believe in yourself (head) that you need it or like the way it makes you feel so get high as often as possible, which in turn can lead to brain damage and/or lung, mouth or blood cancers (there is no way to indefinately prove this isnt because of the tobacco usually added to marijuana to smoke it.

In the future please read up on things before posting uninformed comments.

The original comment can't be proven or disproven indefinately as there hasn't been enough research on the subject and there are many different additives used in "weed" and tests on humans for some of the questions that need to be answered are in most countries are illegal.

 

[miniGOINGS]

I agree with this completely. Anything (especially cubing) can become addictive. I'd say weed even slightly more than most things, just because it gets you high. But this is the same addiction that applies to video games or food (actually, since eating and sex release dopamine into the system, these would be more addictive than weed).

Sorry to get off topic again, but I wanted to respond.

/offtopic

Just a quick question, don't you think that cubing can release dopamine?

 

[andyt1992]

I agree with this completely. Anything (especially cubing) can become addictive. I'd say weed even slightly more than most things, just because it gets you high. But this is the same addiction that applies to video games or food (actually, since eating and sex release dopamine into the system, these would be more addictive than weed).

Sorry to get off topic again, but I wanted to respond.

/offtopic

Just a quick question, don't you think that cubing can release dopamine?

There are no such studies of the effects of cubing or smoking marijuana on the release of dopamine.

This is from wikipedia it gives a good explanation on the effects of dopamine on everyday behaviours of both animals and humans. Again it is nor proof or disproof, the quote itself even says hypothesized.

It has been hypothesized that dopamine transmits reward prediction error, although this has been questioned.[6] According to this hypothesis, the phasic responses of dopamine neurons are observed when an unexpected reward is presented. These responses transfer to the onset of a conditioned stimulus after repeated pairings with the reward. Further, dopamine neurons are depressed when the expected reward is omitted. Thus, dopamine neurons seem to encode the prediction error of rewarding outcomes. In nature, we learn to repeat behaviors that lead to maximize rewards. Dopamine is therefore believed to provide a teaching signal to parts of the brain responsible for acquiring new behavior. Temporal difference learning provides a computational model describing how the prediction error of dopamine neurons is used as a teaching signal.

The reward system in insects uses octopamine, which is the presumed arthropod homolog of norepinephrine,[7] rather than dopamine. In insects, dopamine acts instead as a punishment signal and is necessary to form aversive memories

 

[antoinejobin]

This is going way to far XD

 

[qqwref]

To those of you who get slower: Why would you smoke weed if it makes you slower?

That's like saying "why would you bother to sleep, if you can't cube at the same time"... lol

I dunno whether pot could make you faster... I guess if you have trouble with looking ahead it could help because it compels you to turn slower, but if you're good at lookahead it'd just slow you down. But you can do slow-turning solves without being high I'd say, do drugs to enjoy it, not to help with cubing.

 

[andyt1992]

This is going way to far XD

I guess thats aimed at my stupidly long quotes
but i find it ignorant, lazy and stupid when people dont give reasons or explanations and are just posting non factual information claiming it to be factual

also, your body doesnt need it, it is highly likely that there will be risks so why bother for the sake of being high, if you are going to smoke it, dont excessively smoke (get high). as for alcohol, dont excessively drink (get drunk) it there's no need.
Rant over.

 

[RyanO]

@Andyt1992
Admittedly, unbiased marijuana research is pretty tough to come by, but for the most part, the people defending casual marijuana smoking on this forum are more aware of the effects of such use than their attackers.

Those naively claiming that smoking marijuana automatically ruins the lives of those that do it have a very narrow world view and demonstrate little knowledge of how the world works. If all marijuana users are ruining their lives it sure seems odd that there are so many people with "ruined" lives who are quite normal, happy, and fully functional members of society.

EDIT*
After rereading my post, this isn't really directed at Andy at all.

 

[iasimp1997]

Okay.
Whoever smokes weed is probably exposed to a not-so-good environment. And they probably don't have very good parents and/or school. I feel really bad for whoever does it. You're ruining your lives, you know.

You're a moron, you know.

I think you're the moron here.

Okay.
Whoever smokes weed is probably exposed to a not-so-good environment. And they probably don't have very good parents and/or school. I feel really bad for whoever does it. You're ruining your lives, you know.

Note that centers of higher learning have some of the highest rates of marijuana use.

That's because there's more dumb@$$es there to convince them. It doesn't help you.

Kool Kat is :3

+1



Weed is bad for your lungs. And it's unlawful.
And people will end up using you for weed. You'll eventually find out you have no real friends.


Does anyone here not smoke weed?
EDIT: I seriously did NOT know that there were this many retards here.

 

[RyanO]

EDIT: I seriously did NOT know that there were this many retards here.

You could help remedy the situation by deleting your account.

 

[miniGOINGS]

Does anyone here not smoke weed?

Oh hey there.

 

[iasimp1997]

EDIT: I seriously did NOT know that there were this many retards here.

You could help remedy the situation by deleting your account.

:fp
weedsmokersareretardswhyareyoucallingmearetardmmmkay?

 

[Ethan Rosen]

so according to iasimp1997 I have no friends and everyone just uses me. I'm so depressed now, I think imma smoke a bowl.

 

[miniGOINGS]

so according to iasimp1997 I have no friends and everyone just uses me. I'm so depressed now, I think imma smoke a bowl.

Might as well. Retard. See how logical that is, iasimp1997?

 

[aronpm]

EDIT: I seriously did NOT know that there were this many retards here.

Too many 'retards'? GET OFF OF HERE AND STAY OFF

 

[Dene]

ya only dumb idiots smoke weed you are all condemned to hell good luck with the devil nubs.

 

[RyanO]

EDIT: I seriously did NOT know that there were this many retards here.

You could help remedy the situation by deleting your account.

:fp
weedsmokersareretardswhyareyoucallingmearetardmmmkay?

It's mainly due to your demonstrated lack of abilitiy to produce independent coherent thought.