Marijuana - good or bad?

[Derrick Eide17]

And I'll add on top of that that canadians are morons.

You don't mean that at all
Potheads actually ARE morons though seriously you see the way they act? I rest my case =D

 

[BeautifullyDecayed.]

Arguments like this go nowhere.

It's helping me build an opinion on the matter though, and make more informed decisions

Don't base your opinion on the opinions of others. Do a bit of research and make your OWN decision based on FACTS.

I know a lot about it, I guess.
I just like to know peoples reasons behind doing it or not doing it.

 

[qqwref]

Marijuana is bad in the sense that it's a drug, so if you're not OK with the concept of recreational drug use you definitely won't be cool with pot. (Personally I don't do any illegal drugs, but I don't think it's really wrong to.) On the other hand, as far as I know it's one of the safest drugs there is, so from that standpoint I'd say it's a good thing: if you're only going to do one drug, having that one drug be marijuana is a really good decision.

Here's a link to an admittedly biased (but probably close to correct) table of the number of deaths due to various drugs and other things: http://drugwarfacts.org/cms/?q=node/30. They give a count of 0 for marijuana, and while that may not be entirely true, it's clearly nowhere near as dangerous as alcohol and tobacco (which are both completely legal for sufficiently old people).

 

[blade740]

And I'll add on top of that that canadians are morons.

You don't mean that at all
Potheads actually ARE morons though seriously you see the way they act? I rest my case =D

Canadians actually ARE morons though seriously you see the way you act? I rest my case =D

 

[Weston]

Marijuana is not a drug, it's an herb.

Yes everything is good in moderation. Marijuana can be treated like alcohol and cigarettes:Too much of it, and it will be bad. The only downside I can think of would be people abusing it. (but they already do that with alcohol and cigars).

It's good for the economy, good for self-esteem, good for the general protection of the public, good for the state, and the public (as less people will go to jail). Legalization, where are you?

yes and no. yes, it is a herb(lol)
but no, every thing is really bad in moderation. My opinion anyway.

Everything is dangerous even in moderation? If dangerous means that there is a unusually high risk of something bad happening, what is so dangerous about taking off your socks in "moderation?"

 

[Derrick Eide17]

And I'll add on top of that that canadians are morons.

You don't mean that at all
Potheads actually ARE morons though seriously you see the way they act? I rest my case =D

Canadians actually ARE morons though seriously you see the way you act? I rest my case =D

see just look at the way your acting can't come up with anything so you copy me... poor poor blade....

 

[BeautifullyDecayed.]

What's the risk of something else being added to it though, so it isn't pure?
Also, is it addictive?

 

[V-te]

Marijuana is not a drug, it's an herb.

Yes everything is good in moderation. Marijuana can be treated like alcohol and cigarettes:Too much of it, and it will be bad. The only downside I can think of would be people abusing it. (but they already do that with alcohol and cigars).

It's good for the economy, good for self-esteem, good for the general protection of the public, good for the state, and the public (as less people will go to jail). Legalization, where are you?

yes and no. yes, it is a herb(lol)
but no, every thing is really bad in moderation. My opinion anyway.

Everything is dangerous even in moderation? If dangerous means that there is a unusually high risk of something bad happening, what is so dangerous about taking off your socks in "moderation?"

I'm sorry Weston could you please rephrase that? I have a headache so I might have some trouble following. I'm not really a metaphor person.

 

[blade740]

And I'll add on top of that that canadians are morons.

You don't mean that at all
Potheads actually ARE morons though seriously you see the way they act? I rest my case =D

Canadians actually ARE morons though seriously you see the way you act? I rest my case =D

see just look at the way your acting can't come up with anything so you copy me... poor poor blade....

Actually, I was pointing out that you're generalizing. You don't know all potheads, and I don't know all canadians. It's fallacious for either of us to make those statements.

And I know plenty of intelligent "potheads." (and canadians)

 

[Weston]

Marijuana is not a drug, it's an herb.

Yes everything is good in moderation. Marijuana can be treated like alcohol and cigarettes:Too much of it, and it will be bad. The only downside I can think of would be people abusing it. (but they already do that with alcohol and cigars).

It's good for the economy, good for self-esteem, good for the general protection of the public, good for the state, and the public (as less people will go to jail). Legalization, where are you?

yes and no. yes, it is a herb(lol)
but no, every thing is really bad in moderation. My opinion anyway.

Everything is dangerous even in moderation? If dangerous means that there is a unusually high risk of something bad happening, what is so dangerous about taking off your socks in "moderation?"

I'm sorry Weston could you please rephrase that? I have a headache so I might have some trouble following. I'm not really a metaphor person.

lol im just saying that to make statements like "everything is ____" are never any good in debates/arguments. I just made a silly example that "taking off your socks in moderation is not dangerous"

Also, is it addictive?

From what I hear, no it isn't. Unless its laced with crack. Then its dangerous and addictive.

 

[blade740]

What's the risk of something else being added to it though, so it isn't pure?
Also, is it addictive?

Nearly no risk of something being added, as long as you're smart in buying it. If you buy pre-ground material there's a chance something else has been ground up and mixed in, but most people buy whole buds of the plant. While they could be soaked in some sort of liquid, that would be expensive, and if I was going to lace it, I would sell it at the higher price and tell the customer it's laced. Neither I nor anyone I know has ever gotten laced weed.

As to whether it's addictive: It's not physically addictive (in the way alcohol, heroin, nicotine, etc are), but it can be mentally addictive. All that really means, though, is that you may like it and want more. Food is mentally addictive.

 

[V-te]

Marijuana is not a drug, it's an herb.

Yes everything is good in moderation. Marijuana can be treated like alcohol and cigarettes:Too much of it, and it will be bad. The only downside I can think of would be people abusing it. (but they already do that with alcohol and cigars).

It's good for the economy, good for self-esteem, good for the general protection of the public, good for the state, and the public (as less people will go to jail). Legalization, where are you?

yes and no. yes, it is a herb(lol)
but no, every thing is really bad in moderation. My opinion anyway.

Everything is dangerous even in moderation? If dangerous means that there is a unusually high risk of something bad happening, what is so dangerous about taking off your socks in "moderation?"

I'm sorry Weston could you please rephrase that? I have a headache so I might have some trouble following. I'm not really a metaphor person.

lol im just saying that to make statements like "everything is ____" are never any good in debates/arguments. I just made a silly example that "taking off your socks in moderation is not dangerous"

Oh I see what you are saying. You're a literal person aren't you?

Well yes, it is is wrong to say "Everything is _____" but that's where our common sense comes in and tells us that everything must not be everything.

Unless we're literal of course.

 

[Weston]

but no, every thing is really bad in moderation. My opinion anyway.

Everything is dangerous even in moderation? If dangerous means that there is a unusually high risk of something bad happening, what is so dangerous about taking off your socks in "moderation?"

I'm sorry Weston could you please rephrase that? I have a headache so I might have some trouble following. I'm not really a metaphor person.

lol im just saying that to make statements like "everything is ____" are never any good in debates/arguments. I just made a silly example that "taking off your socks in moderation is not dangerous"

Oh I see what you are saying. You're a literal person aren't you?

Well yes, it is is wrong to say "Everything is _____" but that's where our common sense comes in and tells us that everything must not be everything.

Unless we're literal of course.

Yes I am a literal person.
Most of the time, people use "implied meanings" to cover up their mistakes and I try not to do that. Also, me loving math and physics and hating language arts kind of makes me more literal.

 

[V-te]

but no, every thing is really bad in moderation. My opinion anyway.

Everything is dangerous even in moderation? If dangerous means that there is a unusually high risk of something bad happening, what is so dangerous about taking off your socks in "moderation?"

I'm sorry Weston could you please rephrase that? I have a headache so I might have some trouble following. I'm not really a metaphor person.

lol im just saying that to make statements like "everything is ____" are never any good in debates/arguments. I just made a silly example that "taking off your socks in moderation is not dangerous"

Oh I see what you are saying. You're a literal person aren't you?

Well yes, it is is wrong to say "Everything is _____" but that's where our common sense comes in and tells us that everything must not be everything.

Unless we're literal of course.

Yes I am a literal person.
Most of the time, people use "implied meanings" to cover up their mistakes and I try not to do that. Also, me loving math and physics and hating language arts kind of makes me more literal.

Ok I see now. I am more of a cynic (in it's modern definition), so I just tend to use the language that's in my thoughts.

So what is your opinion on MJ?

 

[Weston]

but no, every thing is really bad in moderation. My opinion anyway.

Everything is dangerous even in moderation? If dangerous means that there is a unusually high risk of something bad happening, what is so dangerous about taking off your socks in "moderation?"

I'm sorry Weston could you please rephrase that? I have a headache so I might have some trouble following. I'm not really a metaphor person.

lol im just saying that to make statements like "everything is ____" are never any good in debates/arguments. I just made a silly example that "taking off your socks in moderation is not dangerous"

Oh I see what you are saying. You're a literal person aren't you?

Well yes, it is is wrong to say "Everything is _____" but that's where our common sense comes in and tells us that everything must not be everything.

Unless we're literal of course.

Yes I am a literal person.
Most of the time, people use "implied meanings" to cover up their mistakes and I try not to do that. Also, me loving math and physics and hating language arts kind of makes me more literal.

Ok I see now. I am more of a cynic (in it's modern definition), so I just tend to use the language that's in my thoughts.

So what is your opinion on MJ?

Mine? It just depends on the person. Stupid people = bad. Responsible people = fine.

The only problem with it for me is its "gateway drug" property.

 

[V-te]

The only problem with it for me is its "gateway drug" property.

Ok, could you please explain what you mean by that?

 

[Weston]

Sigh... lol.

Fine. But I'm going to bed after this lol.

So, many of the people who use harder and more dangerous drugs started doing drugs initially with marijuana. Marijuana is often the first drug that people use that introduced them into drug use. Since it often leads to people doing harder drugs, it is called the "gateway drug."

That was a horrible explanation because I'm way too tired right now. Theres always google.

 

[blade740]

The only problem with it for me is its "gateway drug" property.

The "gateway" effect is misinterpreted: the kind of people that would do other drugs would also smoke marijuana, not the other way around. Anyone who is smart enough to look into what he's doing before taking drugs will realize the difference between marijuana and cocaine.

 

[V-te]

Sigh... lol.

Fine. But I'm going to bed after this lol.

So, many of the people who use harder and more dangerous drugs started doing drugs initially with marijuana. Marijuana is often the first drug that people use that introduced them into drug use. Since it often leads to people doing harder drugs, it is called the "gateway drug."

That was a horrible explanation because I'm way too tired right now. Theres always google.

Ok thank you. Like I've said, I live off my cynicism so I don't really know these metaphors people use. My serious flaw. lol.

 

[qqwref]

I don't really agree with the "gateway drug" concept either. Statistically speaking, not all that many people who use common drugs like alcohol or pot will move onto dangerous stuff like cocaine or heroin; on the other hand, I can imagine that quite a large proportion of people who are going to use dangerous drugs will start out with stuff like pot and alcohol. So I'd say the gateway drug effect is more the fault of the kind of people who are going to use any drug they can get their hands on, rather than the fault of marijuana itself.

A similar argument is the one linking violent video games and killers... while it's true that some people who were obsessed with death and ended up brutally murdering someone started out playing the games, it's never the games that caused it - they were usually like that before they started playing that kind of game. If you tried to argue that violent games lead to actual killings, you'd be completely ignoring the 99.99% of people who play those games for fun and *don't* end up being mass/serial murderers.