Non-Cubers say the darndest things!

[Muesli]

My friend whose a newer cuber said He saw a video on youtube where they said there were enough combinations on the petaminx to fill up 15 universes. How many things are wrong with that?

There are more?

Let's just look at the teraminx which I found a firm number on the # of combinations for (petaminx obviously has more but I haven't seen a good looking calculation)
1.7989 x 10^571 possible positions. Drewseph says his teraminx fits in an 11x11x11cm cube. A dodecahedron's edge length is approximately half its cubic dimensions so I'll go with 5.5cm per edge. A dodecahedron's volume is IIRC approximately equal to 7.66*(edge length^3) so the volume of a teraminx is approximately 1274.4325 cubic centimeters. Going with 13.7 billion light years for the radius of the universe, light traveling at 3*10^8m/s, we get 4/3*pi*((1.37*10^10)*(3600*24*365)*(3*10^8)*(100))^3 cubic centimeters in the universe.

1274.4325*1.7989*10^571
= 2.29257662*10^574 cm^3 for all possible teraminx positions, assuming we can seamlessly pack teraminxes together.
4/3*pi*((1.37*10^10)*(3600*24*365)*(3*10^8)*(100))^3
= 1.4043993*10^85 cm^3 in the universe


Obviously the petaminx would fill even more universes.

First off, the size of the universe is infinite, second, solution is not an object, so it has no volume. Third there is only one universe.

Prove it, the area is in terms of different Petaminxes stacked next to each other and prove it.

 

[TacticalPenguin]

Each different combination on the teraminx corresponds to the area of one teraminx.

We have no way of knowing whether the universe is infinite, or if our universe is the only one.

Perhaps it would be better to phrase it like this:

There are enough combinations on the petaminx that, if you had one petaminx in each positions, they would fill up the currently observable universe X times.

Note that I incorrectly used 13.7 billion lightyears for radius of universe, that is actually age in years, not radius; a bit of googling says there are actually visible things as far as 46.5 lightyears away. This'll turn the math into:

1274.4325*1.7989*10^571
= 2.29257662*10^574 cm^3
4/3*pi*((4.65*10^10)*(3600*24*365)*(3*10^8)*(100))^3
= 5.49145921*10^86 cm^3 in the universe

giving us the useless knowledge that one teraminx for each of the teraminx's possible positions would fill our observable universe 4.17480406*10^487 times.

 

[~Phoenix Death~]

After getting me DIY
Kid: Hey, lemme see that. *turns it* WTF, it's so effing LOOSE.
Me:Special Brand
Kid:Which
Meo It Yourself
Kid:...Do what?

After selling my DIY for 35 dollars D )
People:Hey, where's your Rubik's CUbe
Meun have it
People:WHY?!?!?!?!??! (Believe it or not, those ? and ! are barely exaggerated )
Me:Sold it. 35 dollars
One Stupid Kid: Because you suck at it. (I told a mom joke to this guy)
Other dude: WHAT?! DAMN.
Friend:You made like twice profit!!

what kind of DIY?

Type A from CUbesolvers.

 

[miniGOINGS]

To all that say there is no One algorithm to solve any cube, there is... it would just have to be 43,000,000,000,000,000 (fourty-three-quintillion) moves long.

No, there are 43,000,000,000,000,000 algorithms, but you only need one per solve.

So you found out the Devil's Algorithm? Please tell.

 

[Muesli]

To all that say there is no One algorithm to solve any cube, there is... it would just have to be 43,000,000,000,000,000 (fourty-three-quintillion) moves long.

No, there are 43,000,000,000,000,000 algorithms, but you only need one per solve.

So you found out the Devil's Algorithm? Please tell.

Here it is.
R, U, L', D, R, L, R, F' *head explodes*

 

[miniGOINGS]

To all that say there is no One algorithm to solve any cube, there is... it would just have to be 43,000,000,000,000,000 (fourty-three-quintillion) moves long.

No, there are 43,000,000,000,000,000 algorithms, but you only need one per solve.

So you found out the Devil's Algorithm? Please tell.

Here it is.
R, U, L', D, R, L, R, F' *head explodes*

Where did my head go?!?

 

[V-te]

I always like it when I bring out my V7 and they say "Woah that thing is HUGE!!"

 

[miniGOINGS]

Them: "Do you have the one that's this big?" (puts their hands like 2 feet apart)
Me: "Two actually."
Them: "Wow.."

 

[V-te]

Them: "Do you have the one that's this big?" (puts their hands like 2 feet apart)
Me: "Two actually."
Them: "Wow.."

That's what she said! lol. I love jokes like that.

 

[miniGOINGS]

Them: "Do you have the one that's this big?" (puts their hands like 2 feet apart)
Me: "Two actually."
Them: "Wow.."

That's what she said! lol. I love jokes like that.

Exactly, but I didn't want to be the person to post it.

 

[V-te]

Them: "Do you have the one that's this big?" (puts their hands like 2 feet apart)
Me: "Two actually."
Them: "Wow.."

That's what she said! lol. I love jokes like that.

Exactly, but I didn't want to be the person to post it.

Why not may I ask?

 

[miniGOINGS]

Them: "Do you have the one that's this big?" (puts their hands like 2 feet apart)
Me: "Two actually."
Them: "Wow.."

That's what she said! lol. I love jokes like that.

Exactly, but I didn't want to be the person to post it.

Why not may I ask?

To make sure someone else would get it.

 

[Cyrus C.]

My friend whose a newer cuber said He saw a video on youtube where they said there were enough combinations on the petaminx to fill up 15 universes. How many things are wrong with that?

There are more?

Let's just look at the teraminx which I found a firm number on the # of combinations for (petaminx obviously has more but I haven't seen a good looking calculation)
1.7989 x 10^571 possible positions. Drewseph says his teraminx fits in an 11x11x11cm cube. A dodecahedron's edge length is approximately half its cubic dimensions so I'll go with 5.5cm per edge. A dodecahedron's volume is IIRC approximately equal to 7.66*(edge length^3) so the volume of a teraminx is approximately 1274.4325 cubic centimeters. Going with 13.7 billion light years for the radius of the universe, light traveling at 3*10^8m/s, we get 4/3*pi*((1.37*10^10)*(3600*24*365)*(3*10^8)*(100))^3 cubic centimeters in the universe.

1274.4325*1.7989*10^571
= 2.29257662*10^574 cm^3 for all possible teraminx positions, assuming we can seamlessly pack teraminxes together.
4/3*pi*((1.37*10^10)*(3600*24*365)*(3*10^8)*(100))^3
= 1.4043993*10^85 cm^3 in the universe


Obviously the petaminx would fill even more universes.

First off, the size of the universe is infinite, second, solution is not an object, so it has no volume. Third there is only one universe.

Prove it, the area is in terms of different Petaminxes stacked next to each other and prove it.

That's an assumption, & you know what they say about people who assume...

Spoiler

they make an ass out of u & me

To the person who said 'prove the universe is infinite'

why don't you prove the universe is uninfinite.

 

[Muesli]

My friend whose a newer cuber said He saw a video on youtube where they said there were enough combinations on the petaminx to fill up 15 universes. How many things are wrong with that?

There are more?

Let's just look at the teraminx which I found a firm number on the # of combinations for (petaminx obviously has more but I haven't seen a good looking calculation)
1.7989 x 10^571 possible positions. Drewseph says his teraminx fits in an 11x11x11cm cube. A dodecahedron's edge length is approximately half its cubic dimensions so I'll go with 5.5cm per edge. A dodecahedron's volume is IIRC approximately equal to 7.66*(edge length^3) so the volume of a teraminx is approximately 1274.4325 cubic centimeters. Going with 13.7 billion light years for the radius of the universe, light traveling at 3*10^8m/s, we get 4/3*pi*((1.37*10^10)*(3600*24*365)*(3*10^8)*(100))^3 cubic centimeters in the universe.

1274.4325*1.7989*10^571
= 2.29257662*10^574 cm^3 for all possible teraminx positions, assuming we can seamlessly pack teraminxes together.
4/3*pi*((1.37*10^10)*(3600*24*365)*(3*10^8)*(100))^3
= 1.4043993*10^85 cm^3 in the universe


Obviously the petaminx would fill even more universes.

First off, the size of the universe is infinite, second, solution is not an object, so it has no volume. Third there is only one universe.

Prove it, the area is in terms of different Petaminxes stacked next to each other and prove it.

That's an assumption, & you know what they say about people who assume...

Spoiler

they make an ass out of u & me

To the person who said 'prove the universe is infinite'

why don't you prove the universe is uninfinite.

That's not an assumption, that is what he said. Read the original post again. Also, you were the one assuming that the universe is infinite and that there is only one.

As for the "Prove it's un-infinite", prove that it is. We have no way of knowing, so why guess?

 

[PEZenfuego]

My friend whose a newer cuber said He saw a video on youtube where they said there were enough combinations on the petaminx to fill up 15 universes. How many things are wrong with that?

There are more?

Let's just look at the teraminx which I found a firm number on the # of combinations for (petaminx obviously has more but I haven't seen a good looking calculation)
1.7989 x 10^571 possible positions. Drewseph says his teraminx fits in an 11x11x11cm cube. A dodecahedron's edge length is approximately half its cubic dimensions so I'll go with 5.5cm per edge. A dodecahedron's volume is IIRC approximately equal to 7.66*(edge length^3) so the volume of a teraminx is approximately 1274.4325 cubic centimeters. Going with 13.7 billion light years for the radius of the universe, light traveling at 3*10^8m/s, we get 4/3*pi*((1.37*10^10)*(3600*24*365)*(3*10^8)*(100))^3 cubic centimeters in the universe.

1274.4325*1.7989*10^571
= 2.29257662*10^574 cm^3 for all possible teraminx positions, assuming we can seamlessly pack teraminxes together.
4/3*pi*((1.37*10^10)*(3600*24*365)*(3*10^8)*(100))^3
= 1.4043993*10^85 cm^3 in the universe


Obviously the petaminx would fill even more universes.

First off, the size of the universe is infinite, second, solution is not an object, so it has no volume. Third there is only one universe.

Prove it, the area is in terms of different Petaminxes stacked next to each other and prove it.

That's an assumption, & you know what they say about people who assume...

Spoiler

they make an ass out of u & me

To the person who said 'prove the universe is infinite'

why don't you prove the universe is uninfinite.

That's not an assumption, that is what he said. Read the original post again. Also, you were assuming that the universe is infinite and that there is only one.

There is only one universe. That isn't an assumption. Uni means "one."

If there were more than one universe...then they wouldn't really be universes at all.

 

[krazedkat]

True. However no one knows if it is inifinte.

 

[cubeninjaIV]

My friend whose a newer cuber said He saw a video on youtube where they said there were enough combinations on the petaminx to fill up 15 universes. How many things are wrong with that?

There are more?

Let's just look at the teraminx which I found a firm number on the # of combinations for (petaminx obviously has more but I haven't seen a good looking calculation)
1.7989 x 10^571 possible positions. Drewseph says his teraminx fits in an 11x11x11cm cube. A dodecahedron's edge length is approximately half its cubic dimensions so I'll go with 5.5cm per edge. A dodecahedron's volume is IIRC approximately equal to 7.66*(edge length^3) so the volume of a teraminx is approximately 1274.4325 cubic centimeters. Going with 13.7 billion light years for the radius of the universe, light traveling at 3*10^8m/s, we get 4/3*pi*((1.37*10^10)*(3600*24*365)*(3*10^8)*(100))^3 cubic centimeters in the universe.

1274.4325*1.7989*10^571
= 2.29257662*10^574 cm^3 for all possible teraminx positions, assuming we can seamlessly pack teraminxes together.
4/3*pi*((1.37*10^10)*(3600*24*365)*(3*10^8)*(100))^3
= 1.4043993*10^85 cm^3 in the universe


Obviously the petaminx would fill even more universes.

First off, the size of the universe is infinite, second, solution is not an object, so it has no volume. Third there is only one universe.

Prove it, the area is in terms of different Petaminxes stacked next to each other and prove it.

That's an assumption, & you know what they say about people who assume...

Spoiler

they make an ass out of u & me

To the person who said 'prove the universe is infinite'

why don't you prove the universe is uninfinite.

That's not an assumption, that is what he said. Read the original post again. Also, you were assuming that the universe is infinite and that there is only one.

There is only one universe. That isn't an assumption. Uni means "one."

If there were more than one universe...then they wouldn't really be universes at all.

you probably forgot that a petaminx is not a cube and therefore can not be arranged with 100% effeiciency making the nuber even larger.

 

[Ranzha]

Could we please go back on topic?

I got this one last night:
"Who are ya, the world record holder?"

 

[TacticalPenguin]

There is only one universe. That isn't an assumption. Uni means "one."

If there were more than one universe...then they wouldn't really be universes at all.

you probably forgot that a petaminx is not a cube and therefore can not be arranged with 100% effeiciency making the nuber even larger.

Uni does mean one, but that doesn't mean that a universe is the only one. Unicycles have one wheel, but that doesn't mean that only one unicycle exists, does it? We don't know for sure whether our universe is the only one or not. The word was coined long before we had come up with all kinds of reasonably possible theories allowing for or even promoting the idea of multiple universes, trying to use the etymology in argument is foolish.

And of course my calculations assumed it was seamless; because the tera and petaminxes are pillowed, it will not be seamless, so even MORE spaces equal in size to our current observable universe would be filled.

 

[PEZenfuego]

There is only one universe. That isn't an assumption. Uni means "one."

If there were more than one universe...then they wouldn't really be universes at all.

you probably forgot that a petaminx is not a cube and therefore can not be arranged with 100% effeiciency making the nuber even larger.

Uni does mean one, but that doesn't mean that a universe is the only one. Unicycles have one wheel, but that doesn't mean that only one unicycle exists, does it? We don't know for sure whether our universe is the only one or not. The word was coined long before we had come up with all kinds of reasonably possible theories allowing for or even promoting the idea of multiple universes, trying to use the etymology in argument is foolish.

And of course my calculations assumed it was seamless; because the tera and petaminxes are pillowed, it will not be seamless, so even MORE spaces equal in size to our current observable universe would be filled.

The unicycle argument is the most flawed and incoherent thing I've heard all day.

What does the "uni" in universe mean then? There is certainly more than one galaxy in the universe.

In any case it doesn't matter because the question/statement made cannot be answered.