Y Perm

[cuberkid10]

Does anyone know a shorter version of the Y perm. The real one just refuses to stick in my mind.

 

[Vulosity]

These are all Ys and pick one that fits you.

F R U' R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R F'
R2 u R2' U R2 D' R' U' R F2' R' U R
F R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' F'
R' U' R F2 R' U R d R2 U' R2' U' R2
R2 U' R' U R U' z' y' L' U' R U' R' U' L U y z
y F' L' U L U L' U' L F L' U' L U L' F' L F
F R U' R' F D R' y x R' U' R z R2 y L' d2
z' U2 L' U' L U L' y' L' U' R U' R' U' L U
F R' F' R U R U' R2 U' R U l U' R' U
z U2 R U R' U' R y R U L' U L U R' U'
F R U' R' U' R d R U R' B' R U' R2
R' F R F' y' U' R' U R2 U R' U' R' F R F' U'
y2 z U2 R' U2 R' U2 R B R B ' U2 B R' B'

 

[4Chan]

You could remember it as 2 OLLs.
Thats the most common one.

 

[cuberkid10]

Which 2 OlL's. And I'm doing this on my 2x2.

 

[StachuK1992]

I'd suggest either doing the 'normal' one or this one:
R' U' R F2 R' U R d R2 U' R2' U' R2

but I know people like Dan Cohen use another one that I don't really like, and will tell you otherwise.

 

[cuberkid10]

How would I do a d on a 2x2?

 

[Nuceria]

Wow. Really? Did you try? d (as opposed to D) means that you turn the bottom layer and the middle layer at the same time. A 2x2 obviously doesn't have a middle layer, so you have nothing to worry about. It's essentially just a D.

 

[cookingfat]

R U' R' U' F2 U' R U R' U F2 is a common one.

 

[Paul Wagner]

How would I do a d on a 2x2?

You do it as D.

 

[MichaelErskine]

You want a Y-perm for a 2x2? Why didn't you say so to begin with?

I'd go with: -

(R U' R' U' F2 U') (R U R') D R2

 

[cuberkid10]

Are there any that are repetive or easy pattern to remeber?

Pattern: (You'll get it when you do it) U R U' L' U R' U' L
Repetive: R U R' U' R U2 R'

 

[StachuK1992]

R' U' R F2 R' U R d R2 U' R2' U' R2

R' U' R takes out the pair in the back
F2
R' U R puts the pair back in
d
(R2 U')x2 R2 easy 2-gen stuff

Memo it on a 3x3. then just apply it on a 2x2.

 

[MichaelErskine]

Are there any that are repetive or easy pattern to remeber?

If you mean "repetitive or easy pattern to remember" ( ) then just try the algorithm I suggest.

This sequence has a natural feel to it -- let me talk you through it...
R U' R' U' --- just like the Sune you quote with all the Upper face moves as U-primes, these are done with the left index finger. The Right hand is doing a "bounce" move: R __ R'
F2 U' --- the F2 breaks this up a bit and is done with the Right hand and the U' is what the Left hand is doing anyway.
R U R' --- Now a change of tack: this is a fast Right hand trigger.
D R2 --- The Left hand gets involved: the ring finger performs the D and we can now see that all we need to do is an R2 to finish off.

What is it you're using at the moment?

 

[teller]

I'd suggest either doing the 'normal' one or this one:
R' U' R F2 R' U R d R2 U' R2' U' R2

but I know people like Dan Cohen use another one that I don't really like, and will tell you otherwise.

Wow, I don't think I've seen that before...I like it.

F2 is a little klunky in that spot, though...I find myself executing it like this:

(R' U' l D2 'l U R U) y' (R2 U' R2 U' R2)

The l D2 l' make for a nice "bounce."

 

[StachuK1992]

I'd suggest either doing the 'normal' one or this one:
R' U' R F2 R' U R d R2 U' R2' U' R2

but I know people like Dan Cohen use another one that I don't really like, and will tell you otherwise.

Wow, I don't think I've seen that before...I like it.

F2 is a little klunky in that spot, though...I find myself executing it like this:

(R' U' l D2 'l U R U) y' (R2 U' R2 U' R2)

The l D2 l' make for a nice "bounce."

start the regular movements like this:
left thumb on Front, fingers on Back
right thumb on Up, fingers on Down

R' -wrist it
U'-left pointer finger
R-wrist it
F2-right ring finger

etc.

 

[cuberkid10]

Thanks! I've been doing the T- Perm twice, which took a lot of time in my solve.

 

[teller]

I'd suggest either doing the 'normal' one or this one:
R' U' R F2 R' U R d R2 U' R2' U' R2

but I know people like Dan Cohen use another one that I don't really like, and will tell you otherwise.

Wow, I don't think I've seen that before...I like it.

F2 is a little klunky in that spot, though...I find myself executing it like this:

(R' U' l D2 'l U R U) y' (R2 U' R2 U' R2)

The l D2 l' make for a nice "bounce."

start the regular movements like this:
left thumb on Front, fingers on Back
right thumb on Up, fingers on Down

R' -wrist it
U'-left pointer finger
R-wrist it
F2-right ring finger

etc.

Yep...that is precisely why I notate as "D2"

 

[Kit Clement]

Thanks! I've been doing the T- Perm twice, which took a lot of time in my solve.

If you're doing the standard T-perm, then how can learning the Y-perm be any more difficult? The T-perm is just two OLLs with cancellations, and the Y perm just switches the two OLLs.

T-Perm: R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F'
T-Perm w/o cancellations: (R U R' U' R' F R F') (F R U' R' U' R U R' F')
Y-Perm: (F R U' R' U' R U R' F') (R U R' U' R' F R F')

 

[ManasijV]

I liked the 3rd a lot. But i dont know if i should change. I'll have to change it for BLD too. I'm confused.