V F AND E PERMS

[ross mccusker]

right, im looking for as many oppinoins as possible here. After timing all my PLLs I have noticed that they are all under 3 seconds, some under 2. But i just cant seem to get the following any faster. Its the V F and E perms. iv always hated these algs. what do you guys use? post videos if necesarry.

thanks

R

 

[jacob15728]

F and V are some of my fastest perms. E is pretty slow still. Here are the algs I use:


E: x' R U' R' D R U R' u2 R' U R D R' U' R

F: R' U R U' R2 F' U' F U R U' x' R2 U' R' U

V: R' U R' U' y R' F' R2 U' R' U R' F R F'

Oh. and how did you get your N perms under 3 seconds? Those are slower than the ones I listed for me...

 

[ross mccusker]

sweet mate, thats the same E i use, iv been trying to memorise this for ages, but it always seems to slip coz it NEVER comes up for me.

 

[teller]

I use Erik's E-Perm and I love it:

x' (R U' R') D (R U R') D' (R U R') D (R U' R') D'

Note that those RUR's are just like inserting and ejecting F2L pairs. Fast and easy!

 

[ross mccusker]

I use Erik's E-Perm and I love it:

x' (R U' R') D (R U R') D' (R U R') D (R U' R') D'

Note that those RUR's are just like inserting and ejecting F2L pairs. Fast and easy!

hey this might actually work for me better than the similar variation of this!

 

[dbax0999]

V: R' U R' U' x2 y' R' U R' U' l R U' R' U R U
Great alg.

 

[Zaxef]

My V Perm is kind of inefficient but I like it..

V: L' U R U' L U L' U R' U' L U2 R U2 R'

 

[guitardude7241]

E: (l' U') (r' F R F') (R U R' U') L (U R U' R' F)

I found this on the wiki a few days ago. I find it fast, except for the first set of moves aren't as fast as the R U R' U's.

 

[Shamah02]

E: x' (R U' R' D R U R') u2' (R' U R D R' U' R) x
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Can easily be sub-2ed if practiced. I've gotten as low as 1.4 with it.

EDIT: This is the one you use, but you see it can be pretty fast!

 

[JTW2007]

I use the Pochmann V Perm (R' U R' D'w R' F' R2 U' R' U R' F R F) and a Pochmann F Perm (R' U2 R' D'w R' F' R2 U' R' U R' F R U' F).

 

[Raffael]

here are the ones I use, written down how I execute them:

E: (Rw U)(L D')(L' U' L Uw2)(L U' L' D')(L U L')

F: (R' U R U')(Lw' R' U')(B' U B)(R U R' U')(R2 B')

V: (R' U R' U') x2 y'(R' U R' U') (Lw R U')(R' U R U)

 

[Kxg]

Well, I'm nowhere near a fast solver but here are mine E/F:

E: y x' R U' R' D R U R' D2 L' U L D L' U' L (I like the one at post #4 too)

F: R' U2 R' d' R' F' R2 U' R' U R' F R U' F

 

[luke1984]

E: x' (R U' R' D R U R') u2' (R' U R D R' U' R) x
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Can easily be sub-2ed if practiced. I've gotten as low as 1.4 with it.

EDIT: This is the one you use, but you see it can be pretty fast!

I use the same E-perm, but it's not very suitable for bigger cubes. Doing the u2' feels awkward on the 7x7x7, so I'm practicing a different one just for bigger cubes. I really love this E perm for 3x3x3 though.

My V perm: R' U2 R U2 L U' R' U L U L' U' R U L'
My F perm: R U' R' U R2 y R U R' U' x U' R' U R U2

 

[abr71310]

My V perm: R' U2 R U2 L U' R' U L U L' U' R U L'

this doesn't work.

 

[brunson]

http://alg.garron.us/ is your friend when posting algorithms.

 

[deadalnix]

E : l'URD'R'U'RDR'U'RD'R'URD
F : R'U'F'RUR'U'R'FR2U'R'U'RUR'UR
V : zU'RDR'URU'RD'R'UR2'DR2D'

 

[Tiw]

E : l'URD'R'U'RDR'U'RD'R'URD
F : R'U'F'RUR'U'R'FR2U'R'U'RUR'UR
V : zU'RDR'URU'RD'R'UR2'DR2D'

Damn...that F perm feels so cool!!^^
Could give us your whole PLL?

Edit:
old F: 1.97 sec
new F: 2.16 sec I think, because it's 18 moves^^

 

[deadalnix]

Could give us your whole PLL?

Sure, but most of them are well known. yeah it's 18 moves but very finger friendly. And compared to others, it's much more lock-up free. S I like this one.

In the unusuals one have these G:

RUR'U'DR2U'RU'R'UR'UR2D' and the reverse one
DR'U'RUD'R2'UR'URU'RU'R2' and the reverse one also.

For the R, I use :
R2'FRURU'R'F'RU2'R'U2R

So all the B type PLL have the 2 adjacent corners on left. Except the A perm.

 

[Tiw]

Could give us your whole PLL?

Sure, but most of them are well known. yeah it's 18 moves but very finger friendly. And compared to others, it's much more lock-up free. S I like this one.

In the unusuals one have these G:

RUR'U'DR2U'RU'R'UR'UR2D' and the reverse one
DR'U'RUD'R2'UR'URU'RU'R2' and the reverse one also.

For the R, I use :
R2'FRURU'R'F'RU2'R'U2R

So all the B type PLL have the 2 adjacent corners on left. Except the A perm.

Hey cool! another user of theese G perms^^ but I use only the R'U'RUD'R2'...
The standard alg for the other one is just faster for me.
I actually thought you have more of nice unusual PLLs.

 

[luke1984]

My V perm: R' U2 R U2 L U' R' U L U L' U' R U L'

this doesn't work.

Darn it, this is the right one: R' U2 R U2 L U' R' U L' U L U' R U L'

I switched an L and an L' in the underlined bit, but this is the right one.