2-Look OLL vs 1-Look OLL Help

[AvGalen]

Means he orients the edges so he only has to do 1 look for the corners.

During F2L? You can do that?!?

Yes, there are ways. I don't know much, but one way of doing this is if you see that no edges are oriented, you insert your last F2L pair using R' F R F'. That orients 2 edges. It's in one of badmephisto's F2L videos.

There are lots of ways to do this. Some methods actually orient the edges at the start (ZZ, EOLine), others orient them "halfway trough the F2L" (Petrus). But even with regular CFOP (Cross, F2L, Orient, Permute) there are at least these ways:
1) Intuitive edge control
2) VH (create pair, orient edges while inserting the pair)
3) ZBF2L (orient edges during the last pair with algs)

 

[spdcbr]

What were your average times? You really shouldn't have gotten into OLL untill you were sub 10.

 

[AvGalen]

What were your average times? You really shouldn't have gotten into OLL untill you were sub 10.

sub 10 for what?
Nobody is (officialy) sub 10 for 3x3x3 (yet). Are you trying to say that nobody should have gotten into OLL?

 

[spdcbr]

Uhh...let's reword that, THE RANGE BETWEEN 20 seconds and ten seconds. Satisfied? Learning full OLL takes off only a second or two from making the top cross. Am I wrong?

 

[AvGalen]

Uhh...let's reword that, THE RANGE BETWEEN 20 seconds and ten seconds. Satisfied? Learning full OLL takes off only a second or two from making the top cross. Am I wrong?

No, you are not wrong for more experienced cubers. The range between 10 and 20 seconds includes slightly more cubers than the sub 10 range

 

[PCwizCube]

I average 17 with 2-look oll and 15 on a good day and I am not planning on learning full OLL for this reason. My OLL is quick especially because I use partial edge control so never have to fix twice. Recognition is just annoying for me I mean CLL(2x2) was hard enough with recognition so I'm not learning longer algs yet.

Never? Really? I also use partial edge control, but there are rare times when I do get the dot. That's maybe like 1 every 50 solves, but it still happens.

I know 19 OLLs and I average ~16 seconds. How many do you know?

 

[Edmund]

Me? I know like 13 OLLs. But Once I get sub-15 average of 12 I figured I'll learn full OLL. It just seems like alot so if I'm fast enough using VH without CLL then I won't care too much about OLL. Yes and never. Because I know the dot cases for VH and the otheres are intuitive until I learn VH.