How does kuit pair 5X5 edges?

[shiqi peng]

same as the title

 

[amostay2004]

Who's kuit?

 

[blah]

Freestyle AvG.

 

[shiqi peng]

same as Erik？

 

[blah]

Erik: AvG.
Kuti: Freestyle AvG.

I think...

 

[shiqi peng]

what's free style avg?

 

[Mike Hughey]

Freestyle AVG = AVG, but without sticking to the same buffer piece throughout. Kuti will switch to another buffer immediately if he sees a match.

 

[HASH-CUBE]

what's AVG? sorry if was so noob

 

[04mucklowd]

what's AVG? sorry if was so noob

Arnaud van Galen edge paring method on cubes bigger than a 3x3

 

[blah]

what's AVG? sorry if was so noob

Arnaud van Galen edge paring method on cubes bigger than a 3x3

Specifically, 5x5x5.

Most people wouldn't call it AvG on a 4x4x4, it's more like "2-at-a-time with a fixed buffer".

I believe no decently fast cuber uses AvG for 6x6x6s and 7x7x7s, correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[HASH-CUBE]

oh i see, thanks for the tip, btw is there a good tutorial for that method?

thanks for the help again

 

[blah]

oh i see, thanks for the tip, btw is there a good tutorial for that method?

thanks for the help again

YouTube. Erik explains it well. frk17 = Erik. Good luck learning it Despite having more negative comments than the bigcubes.com method (at least that's what I've come across), I still prefer AvG I can't comment on bigcubes.com because I've never taken it seriously yet, and I don't think there's a proper basis for comparison anyway, but of course, I may be wrong. They each have their pros and cons, both have been proven to be capable of WR times, at the end of the day, I believe it boils down to personal preference and cubing style.

 

[Mike Hughey]

I believe no decently fast cuber uses AvG for 6x6x6s and 7x7x7s, correct me if I'm wrong.

There's a video of Kuti using AvG (his version) on a 7x7x7. It was something like 4:38, which I would say is decently fast, wouldn't you? And that was a while ago, when it was considered a much faster time than it is now.

Doesn't Erik also use AvG for the bigger cubes? I would somehow doubt he would switch for the bigger cubes.

 

[blah]

I believe no decently fast cuber uses AvG for 6x6x6s and 7x7x7s, correct me if I'm wrong.

There's a video of Kuti using AvG (his version) on a 7x7x7. It was something like 4:38, which I would say is decently fast, wouldn't you? And that was a while ago, when it was considered a much faster time than it is now.

Doesn't Erik also use AvG for the bigger cubes? I would somehow doubt he would switch for the bigger cubes.

Yeah I've seen that video of Kuti, it was a while ago. I didn't know he was using AvG because I hadn't started 5x5x5 back then.

As for Erik, his FAQ video on YouTube says "bad edge-pairing method" or something along those lines

 

[Paul Wagner]

This isn't youtube, we don't say "read the title" or something similar here. Maybe if you explained to us what you were asking and put a little more thought into it you would get an easier answer. :fp

 

[Rama]

kuit

:fp
I know a Mátyás Kuti who uses his own method for pairing up the edges wich looks like Arnauds method.

Ps. For using no capital letter when typing down a name I present you a nice facepalm: :fp

 

[Mike Hughey]

I know a Mátyás Kuti who uses his own method for pairing up the edges wich looks like Arnauds method.

So you've watched him in person. And it does look on your video like he's doing Arnaud's method except not keeping the same buffer the whole time. Is that true, or is his method actually a little different from that? Curious minds want to know.

It's definitely clear from the video that the centers aren't freesliced - he's never more than one turn away from solved centers.

 

[Erik]

Guys... please get some sources or actual knowledge before claiming stuff.
Matyas does NOT use AVG nor AVG without buffer. He does do 2 at a time mostly but more freestyle and he tends to complete a semi-edge and creating another one rather than just making semi-edges all the time. He showed me in Sweden in 2007.

 

[AvGalen]

1st: Very bad topic post. Please get at least the name right when you ask a question like that. An explanation why you asked that question would have been useful as well

2nd: Hash-Cube: When someone tells you he uses method xyz, you shouldn't ask "how does method xyz work". You should use the search function and find http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1447&highlight=avg+edge+pairing and http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13550&highlight=avg+edge+pairing and many more

And to clear up something that has been asked many times:
http://www.speedcubing.com/chris/4speedsolve21.html is probably the best source for 2-at-a-time edge pairing on 4x4x4. I discovered this method myself, but learned how to look ahead from his tutorial

I have always used 2-at-a-time edge pairing on 5x5x5 (and 6x6x6 and 7x7x7 later) but was horribly slow at it because of bad look ahead, parity endings (multiple), weird cases, etc. I tried to find a way to prevent all of that and found out that having a semi-pair in a fixed buffer give much better look ahead, only 1 parity case at the end and basically no weird cases. That is all there is to it. AVG edge pairing is just 2-at-a-time edge-pairing from a fixed buffer with a semi-pair. According to personal preference many people
* don't start with a semi-pair, but switch to one once they have some semi-pairs done
* don't use a fixed buffer but "freestyle" from different buffers
* use less setupmoves that require pairing to an opposite, not adjacent position (d2...d2 instead of d...d')
* use a different slice to pair (I use E, but I think M is better)

 

[Zava]

what's AVG? sorry if was so noob

Arnaud van Galen edge paring method on cubes bigger than a 3x3

Specifically, 5x5x5.

Most people wouldn't call it AvG on a 4x4x4, it's more like "2-at-a-time with a fixed buffer".

I believe no decently fast cuber uses AvG for 6x6x6s and 7x7x7s, correct me if I'm wrong.

well, I do 2 at a time on 6x6 (first 4x4, then 5x5 pairing, AVGish idea but a lot more freestyle) and I think I'm decently fast also Mátyás did his 5x5 edges method on the 7x7.

also, I have an edge pairing tutorial of the method I used to use, it is the same as Mátyás' method. I'm sorry, but it's in hungarian but if someone is interested, I can do an english version too.