OLL or PLL first?

[fourdown00]

I have noticed that most the people i know and the people on here have been learning the PLL algorithms first. i am learning the OLL first and that seems to be working for me, should i switch? thanks

 

[Cube400]

Well, it depends, are you learning ALL of the OLLs or just the Sunes? If Sunes, then finish them up, then start PLL, then continue with OLL

 

[fourdown00]

sunes? i am learning just the most common ones i encounter

 

[Cube400]

Sunes are the cases in which all the Edges of the last layer are ORIENTED, in other words, the cross on top after the F2L is complete.
http://www.cubestation.co.uk/cs2/index.php?page=3x3x3/cfop/oll/ollcasealledgesflippedcorrectly

 

[fourdown00]

yes i am learning those

 

[badmephisto]

PLL. 2look OLL is faster than 2look PLL. Plus OLL has more cases. I'd still learn all the easy cases... thats fine

 

[Johannes91]

Sunes are the cases in which all the Edges of the last layer are ORIENTED

Wrong. Sune is R U R' U R U2 R'.

 

[TimMc]

Sunes are the cases in which all the Edges of the last layer are ORIENTED

Wrong. Sune is R U R' U R U2 R'.

lol, you can use it to orient corners + permute corners + permute edges

I prefer to use other algs too though

 

[Johannes91]

Sune is R U R' U R U2 R'.

lol, you can use it to orient corners + permute corners + permute edges

How?

 

[AvGalen]

I was wondering the same thing

I guess that if you can use it to permute edges, you can also use it to permute corners. (A 4-cycle of edges can be undone by a 4-cycle of corners for example). That would be very hard though!

 

[alexc]

Learn a couple algs for orienting edges of the last layer. Then, learn the "all edges flipped correctly" OLL's. Then, learn all the PLL's. This is what I currently do and allows you to skip learning all those OLL's, at least until you want to get sub-15.