Cubing method debate.

[Roux]

After looking into alottt of methods, yea pretty much all of them are basically petrus and roux varients(solving blocks then doing eo in some way or have to use zbll at the end). anyway I really liked rhe ideas of mehta method, tripod, heineas (or whatever its called) and how roux works in last six edges. These were truly unique, but "can we really make such mind boggling methods today that aren't copies of other methods?" Is the true question today

you know… i always had this method idea which is only a 3 step method. two of the steps are algorithmic and it would average 30 something moves. the alg count tho…

 

[acrystal]

you know… i always had this method idea which is only a 3 step method. two of the steps are algorithmic and it would average 30 something moves. the alg count tho…

3 Step method?? Please explain it to me!

 

[Mr.Ducky]

you know… i always had this method idea which is only a 3 step method. two of the steps are algorithmic and it would average 30 something moves. the alg count tho…

Yea the amount of algrorithems is the thing that ruins most insanely advanced methods, like apb, zb, and many methods in the category I mentioned. They are good and can be usable, but the second you see "yea then last step is ZBLL or subsets of it(or other huge algroithem sets" you just wouldn't wanna try learning the method if it has too many algrorithems. anyway this doesn't mean the method itself is bad, its just that learning alott of algrorithems can be difficult for some people

 

[Roux]

Yea the amount of algrorithems is the thing that ruins most insanely advanced methods, like apb, zb, and many methods in the category I mentioned. They are good and can be usable, but the second you see "yea then last step is ZBLL or subsets of it(or other huge algroithem sets" you just wouldn't wanna try learning the method if it has too many algrorithems. anyway this doesn't mean the method itself is bad, its just that learning alott of algrorithems can be difficult for some people

it took me like 3 months to learn full cmll so yeah i would be cooked trying to learn it

 

[Mr.Ducky]

it took me like 3 months to learn full cmll so yeah i would be cooked trying to learn it

CMLL - Speed Cube Database

Algorithms for CMLL

www.speedcubedb.com

These are really good CMLL algroithems their pretty much really easy algroithems to memorize or OLL ones you already know if you need help

 

[Roux]

3 Step method?? Please explain it to me!

It’s called PPL
Step one: make a Petrus Block on the right side of the cube

Step two: do one of many algorithms to make the top and bottom faces white/yellow; this is called Polar Orientation

Step three: do one of many algorithms to simultaneously solve both top and bottom faces and the rest of the cube

I haven’t exactly calculated how many algorithms would be necessary, but i think somewhere around 4,000. It is based off of the pro square 1 method.

*note: a beginner version of which could have 4-6 steps could be made, sort of like beginner apb

 

[acrystal]

It’s called PPL
Step one: make a Petrus Block on the right side of the cube

Step two: do one of many algorithms to make the top and bottom faces white/yellow; this is called Polar Orientation

Step three: do one of many algorithms to simultaneously solve both top and bottom faces and the rest of the cube

I haven’t exactly calculated how many algorithms would be necessary, but i think somewhere around 4,000. It is based off of the pro square 1 method.

*note: a beginner version of which could have 4-6 steps could be made, sort of like beginner apb

Oh, so its kinda like 223+DR. This sounds cool!

 

[Roux]

Oh, so its kinda like 223+DR. This sounds cool!

thanks! it would be very difficult to actually learn. and the alg ergonomics wouldn’t be great

 

[edward_9x]

ZZ blocks are easier and spammier than Roux blocks and it also looks like magic so ZZ

 

[Martyt7777]

My opinion has changed. I believe ZB is the best method.

I believe that in the near future top cubers will be able to find optimal XXXCrosses, which can be paired with ZB

 

[That0newe1rdo]

As of writing this post, ZB is the best in my opinion, but has its flaws.

I hope some random person comes along and makes a new method that can beat it, as I think that ZB is far from a perfect method.

However, a "perfect" method would need to be efficient, ergonomic, lower alg count, have an ability to look ahead deep into solves etc.
Most things deemed as good in a method usually require the sacrifice of something else considered good.

ZB, for example, is pretty efficient and not the hardest to look ahead in but sacrifices a low alg count to fulfil that.

 

[KubikPanda]

I think pseudo-zb. You can get fast and efficient f2ls if you do your cross skillfully and plan your pairs efficiently, and with lots of practice your last layer is extremely fast too.