The Orcuber's Hunt For The Best 3x3 Method

[acrystal]

i will be honest, i tried RU gen the moment i learnt beginner F2L and i had no problem.
if i can, then why the user cant?

 

[Martyt7777]

i will be honest, i tried RU gen the moment i learnt beginner F2L and i had no problem.
if i can, then why the user cant?

I didn’t say the user cant use RU gen?

 

[acrystal]

As Caleb said

(Pay attention to the bolding in the quote) this is the F2L case that summer variation is

both algs can be used for winter variation, plus we entered the back edge first

 

[Caleb Valenzuela]

As Caleb said

(Pay attention to the bolding in the quote) this is the F2L case that summer variation is

uhh
it’s R U’ R’
if it was from the back it would be R’ U R

 

[acrystal]

I didn’t say the user cant use RU gen

RU gen has EO F2L

 

[Martyt7777]

sorry I’m kinda getting confused…

ok we can rotate that

When do we rotate?

 

[acrystal]

sorry I’m kinda getting confused…

When do we rotate?

Caleb wanted BL instead of FL, so:
FL->BL,FR->FL,BR->FR, & BR->BL

 

[acrystal]

OK HERES MY NEW PLAN:
X-Cross -1edge: this can be done intuitively (solve front, back, and left edges)(solve back left pair)
Solve 2nd pair with EO: IDK if EO is easy, but if it is, then we can do this step (with front left pair)
Solve Last White Edge: Pretty easy if you ask me
Solve 3rd Pair: This has less cases than F2L, & can be done with R, U, and D moves. (with back right pair)
WV: I thought of using full VLS, but thanks to EO, I only need one of the cases
PLL: Self explanatory, from here the cube is solved

IDC if you dont use this, i will this method until we find a method which is actually better than this

 

[CrossPetrus]

We all saw that video, didn’t we?

I feel like the 2x2x3 block is too systematic. Lau would be better with blockbuilding. It is an interesting method though

I did see it, but it is not a good method. There is no point in algorithmically solving a 2x2x3 like that, just to do CFOP f2l. There’s also pretty bad lookahead in the I-f2l setup.

 

[acrystal]

I did see it, but it is not a good method. There is no point in algorithmically solving a 2x2x3 like that, just to do CFOP f2l. There’s also pretty bad lookahead in the I-f2l setup.

True, i had a hard time using the stuff in Lau

 

[Jared Burkhart]

What about the zbll varient? I think I can reduce combos but maybe not practical

 

[acrystal]

What about the zbll varient? I think I can reduce combos but maybe not practical

1ZBLSalg+ZBLL has thrice the amount of algs than VLS+PLL

 

[Jared Burkhart]

ZBLS+ZBLL has thrice the amount of algs than VLS+PLL

no bro I mean block building to eliminate combos for zbll

 

[acrystal]

no bro I mean block building to eliminate combos for zbll

we are not using ZBLL

 

[Martyt7777]

What if we solve EO and 3rd pair together instead? Solving EO and the 2nd pair would likely be a lot L and F moves, which doesn’t seem ergonomic

Also I thibk it would be faster to let the solver solve the left 2x2x3 block freely like in APB, where you are allowed to solve it freely and the preferable method is making a 1x1x3 block then extending it with the DF and DB edges

 

[acrystal]

What if we solve EO and 3rd pair together instead? Solving EO and the 2nd pair would likely be a lot L and F moves, which doesn’t seem ergonomic

Also I thibk it would be faster to let the solver solve the left 2x2x3 block freely like in APB, where you are allowed to solve it freely and the preferable method is making a 1x1x3 block then extending it with the DF and DB edges

BR pair would be worse
and jared asked for x-cross, your idea for the 223 block would bring a disagreeement

 

[Michael Wimberly]

How are there 5 pages in just 1 night

 

[Jared Burkhart]

BR pair would be worse
and jared asked for x-cross, your idea for the 223 block would bring a disagreeement

nah that's ok I am about done here on this thread. I hope you guys succeed!

 

[acrystal]

How are there 5 pages in just 1 night

long story short, we had to decide(argue) about the solving procedure, but the rest are easier

nah that's ok I am about done here on this thread. I hope you guys succeed!

no plz dont go, you should help us like a team

 

[Michael Wimberly]

I'm gonna post the method I'm developing for the method development comp in here after I submit it in there because I don't want to look like I'm cheating. But I will say that my method is a combination of APB and CFOP.

EDIT: At one point I literally made an exact copy of Petrus without realizing it