F2l trainer BETA TESTERS NEEDED

Would you use an f2l trainer

  • Yes

    Votes: 9 56.3%

  • No (I'd rather learn by myself)

    Votes: 1 6.3%

  • Yeah but I already know f2l

    Votes: 6 37.5%
  • Total voters
    16
I personally think that some of the “standard” algs are not that great, but since you do have an alg submitting feature, I guess it doesn’t really matter. But a problem that could arise is that users who are learning new F2L cases might just learn the top alg and call it a day. But then it can just so happen that the case the user chose had a bad alg, which means they’ll get stuck with that and have to relearn the case later. So I suggest that once in a while, change the main alg for a case to a better one (only applies for ones that have bad algs) if you find it. I would be happy help you in finding better algs! Aside from that all is fine. I also
think it’s a good idea to keep the LL stickers because users can see what happens to the top layer during their F2L case, which will help with lookahead, LL prediction, multi-slotting, etc. Maybe it’s possible to highlight what happens to the edges during an F2L case, maybe some side note like: “UR, UB, and RB edges flip during this alg.” It could be implemented with a sort of toggle feature. For algs that don’t flip the edges, you can say something like “no edges flip during this alg.” This is just a suggestion though and I think it would help.
 
Thank you both for your feedback I am thinking of having a toggle switch between showing and not showing the LL pices. Also I would like to know which standard algs are not the best I have not tested all algs so I do not know which ones are not the best. The way I came up with these algs was by making a sort of database for f2l cases using cubeskills as the primary alg and cubingapp as a secondary and also using cubingapp for all the different slot cases. Is there any other feauters you guys would like and also how have you guys liked the AI Coach?
 
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I went through the website and noticed a few things. First, some of the algs seemed a bit nonstandard (like case 15, which you have a double rotation for (I personally use R’ D’ R U’ R’ D R U R U’ R’), but then I saw that you can switch the alg, which I liked. The ui is nice, but I have to ask if you can change the color?
It might have been my phone, but I couldn’t get the cookies applet to go away. I’ll try it on my chromebook later, though. Also, it seems like you can’t start the timer on mobile. I don’t know how much of an issue that would be for most people, but I do ~98% of my timing and training on my phone. Overall, it’s a really nice website that I’ll probably recommend to my friends and I would totally use it myself if I didn’t already know f2l.

Edit: I tried to add the alg I use for case 15, but it keeps giving a weird scramble: R2 U2 R' U' R' D' R2 U2 R' D2 R2, but is normal for the other algs on there
 
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CrossPetrus said:
I went through the website and noticed a few things. First, some of the algs seemed a bit nonstandard (like case 15, which you have a double rotation for (I personally use R’ D’ R U’ R’ D R U R U’ R’), but then I saw that you can switch the alg, which I liked. The ui is nice, but I have to ask if you can change the color?
It might have been my phone, but I couldn’t get the cookies applet to go away. I’ll try it on my chromebook later, though. Also, it seems like you can’t start the timer on mobile. I don’t know how much of an issue that would be for most people, but I do ~98% of my timing and training on my phone. Overall, it’s a really nice website that I’ll probably recommend to my friends and I would totally use it myself if I didn’t already know f2l.

Edit: I tried to add the alg I use for case 15, but it keeps giving a weird scramble: R2 U2 R' U' R' D' R2 U2 R' D2 R2, but is normal for the other algs on there
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Yeah I don't know how it works on phone but I should easily be able to format it better. Also I will check what you said for alg 15 Caleb Valenzuela mentioned something like that. The scramble should work for them it is weird that it didn't work for just that alg I'll look into it and I'll be sure to make a mobile format very soon.
Michael Wimberly said:
What cross color is this using? I can't tell. You should make it white if it isn't already. Also, any pieces that aren't involved with solving the current pair should be greyed out, like the other 3 pairs and the last layer (but keeping the cross), just to reduce confusion.
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It is using yellow but I understand why white might be better. Also was there any problem with showing the cross colors because you should be able to rotate the cube and see. Also in the newest update I made I included a toggle switch to f2l focus and not because like you said it might be confusing but also Caleb Valenzuela said it might be helpful for look ahead so I decided to make a switch for focus as well.
 
case 5: I noticed that the FR, FL, and BR algs are the same. I would suggest putting rotations before the alg to set it up. For example, if you are solving the case in the FL slot, it should look like y’ R U R’ U2 R U’ R’. Same goes with the other angles.
case 6: The FL slot alg is not really standard, and while it is short, it’s not so ergonomic because of the F2s. I suggest switching it with U L’ U’ L U2 L’ U L, and then have the F2 version as an alternate alg. As for the BL slot, it’s a similar idea. The alg being taught right now is also not really standard, and the wide L moves during F2L can make lookahead trickier. I suggest making the wide L move variant an alternate alg and using this as the standard alg instead: y U R’ U’ R U R’ U2 R.
case 7: Some of the algs are non-standard, but i think they’re good anyway (except for the BR variant, it’s better to do y U’ R U2 R’ U2 R U’ R’).
I will look at the rest of the cases later

If you want, i can provide alternate/standard algs so that there’s some variety
 
Caleb Valenzuela said:
case 5: I noticed that the FR, FL, and BR algs are the same. I would suggest putting rotations before the alg to set it up. For example, if you are solving the case in the FL slot, it should look like y’ R U R’ U2 R U’ R’. Same goes with the other angles.
case 6: The FL slot alg is not really standard, and while it is short, it’s not so ergonomic because of the F2s. I suggest switching it with U L’ U’ L U2 L’ U L, and then have the F2 version as an alternate alg. As for the BL slot, it’s a similar idea. The alg being taught right now is also not really standard, and the wide L moves during F2L can make lookahead trickier. I suggest making the wide L move variant an alternate alg and using this as the standard alg instead: y U R’ U’ R U R’ U2 R.
case 7: Some of the algs are non-standard, but i think they’re good anyway (except for the BR variant, it’s better to do y U’ R U2 R’ U2 R U’ R’).
I will look at the rest of the cases later

If you want, i can provide alternate/standard algs so that there’s some variety
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Wow okay that is very helpful thank you. I had noticed that 5 was like that and had it as one of my things to work on but thank you for the algs and yes these are a lot more ergonomic. I don't know many algs because I am learning and created this to practice and I just used the two f2l databases I mentioned earlier and if you want I would gladly accept some other algs.
 
0rcoraCuber21 said:
Yeah I don't know how it works on phone but I should easily be able to format it better. Also I will check what you said for alg 15 Caleb Valenzuela mentioned something like that. The scramble should work for them it is weird that it didn't work for just that alg I'll look into it and I'll be sure to make a mobile format very soon.

It is using yellow but I understand why white might be better. Also was there any problem with showing the cross colors because you should be able to rotate the cube and see. Also in the newest update I made I included a toggle switch to f2l focus and not because like you said it might be confusing but also Caleb Valenzuela said it might be helpful for look ahead so I decided to make a switch for focus as well.
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It might be good to have a feature that allows you to select the cross color.
 
For me, the good thing about this F2L Training program is that it's customizable, as follows:

① I can add the Alg I use.

② I can save learned cases as "Learned" in slot units.

It's probably too late now, but my wishes are as follows:

① Make White Cross the default (other cross colors can be optional.)

② I'd also like you to create ZZ-F2L (see the site below) because I am training it now, using the Excel sheet of this site and my iPhone' Note (old-fashon way).

docs.google.com

ZZF2L Cases

docs.google.com docs.google.com

It's really well done.😊
 
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Yeah I was testing out the mobile and I ran into the not stop timer that will be fixed soon and I am considering adding a settings that allows you to change cross color change colors and change it from f2l focus to full cube default.
 
Tito_H said:
For me, the good thing about this F2L Training program is that it's customizable, as follows:

① I can add the Alg I use.

② I can save learned cases as "Learned" in slot units.

It's probably too late now, but my wishes are as follows:

① Make White Cross the default (other cross colors can be optional.)

② I'd also like you to create ZZ-F2L (see the site below) because I am training it now, using the Excel sheet of this site and my iPhone' Note (old-fashon way).

docs.google.com

ZZF2L Cases

docs.google.com docs.google.com

It's really well done.😊
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I think I might eventually add more cases like zz and zb cases
 
Okay guys if you try the link now it should included all the most recent request. I added a gear settings up in the top with lots of new customization opportunities. Also to the more than half of you using the phone the app now works sorry that you couldn't use it till now but everything should work fine. Tell me if there is anything else you guys would like.
 
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