Mefferts or eastsheen? (4x4x4)

[Odin]

Well my friend is going to buy a 4x4x4, and he wants to know which one he should get. So his questions are: “Should I get a Mefferts or an Eastsheen 4x4x4? And also if it isn’t to much of a hassle can you list the pros and cons of each cube?”

Thanks – EnjoiSkater75

 

[Vulosity]

Mefferts > Eastsheen

Pros
-Does not lock up as much, Bigger, Does not pop
Cons
-Center pieces can break.
-Costs more than ES

Eastsheens are smoother, really small, lock up a lot, and are a pain in the butt to re-assemble.

 

[JBCM627]

Whoops, crap. Voted for the wrong one. Why can't I change my vote?

Agree, Mefferts > Eastsheen.

 

[Poley]

I don't own a Meffert's 4x4, so my opinion may be skewed. However, I am very satisfied with my Eastsheen 4x4 and do not see many ways in which another cube could be significantly superior.

 

[puzzlemaster]

the mefferts is a clone of the old rubik's brand...everyone loved that... i would have to say mefferts all the way..

pro's of the mefferts:
corner cutting on outer layers
glides nicely after some breaking in
color recognition is very nice
much larger than an eastsheen so easier turning

cons of the mefferts:
tiles can be annoying even though they look very nice
centers can snap (as mentioned above)
inner layers don't cut corners (but what cube does?)

pros of the eastsheen:
fast out of the box
glides nice
good for people with smaller hands
nice if broken in for say 7-8 months

cons of the eastsheen:
too small if you have bigger hands
LOCKS LIKE MAD!!!
centers can fall out and be lost
no corner cutting capabilites whatsoever (until broken in and even then not always)
can snap if forced

 

[Musturd]

This: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.19208
is a meffert's clone right?

 

[puzzlemaster]

This: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.19208
is a meffert's clone right?

i believe it is

 

[EmersonHerrmann]

Uh...Meffert's is really good but if you know how to do good maintenance on an ES 4x4, it becomes very good...many people still prefer the Meffert's though. Some people (such as Nakaji) think it is too big, since they are so used to ES

 

[puzzlemaster]

Uh...Meffert's is really good but if you know how to do good maintenance on an ES 4x4, it becomes very good...many people still prefer the Meffert's though. Some people (such as Nakaji) think it is too big, since they are so used to ES

well the eastsheen has been out for a whileee so i guess that a ton of people have gotten used to it.. i only started cubing around 7 months ago so i started on a retooled rubiks... the mefferts was a very nice improvement though.

 

[Robert-Y]

IMO I think ES 4x4x4s would be the best if there was some way to reduce or even stop all lock-ups and increase its corner cutting ability. I noticed that whenever I get a lock up, it's almost always because of a corner and a centre piece. Surely there's a solution to this?

 

[EmersonHerrmann]

There must be...

 

[puzzlemaster]

hmmmm that's a tough one... isn't the problem caused by the mechanism itself? modding that would be a pain... spring structure?

 

[Musturd]

Sand the sharp parts of the center cubies?

 

[Robert-Y]

Sand the sharp parts of the center cubies?

Hmm... I might just try this. I think it might be a good solution.

 

[Musturd]

Tell me if it works because then I'll get an ES instead of Mefferts (or clone).
I have a Rubik's 4x4x4 and I hate it.

 

[puzzlemaster]

there are mods for the rubik's brand too ever seen thrawst's mod? it's actually decent.. and i don't think that sanding those will work...i still feel that it has to do with the mechanism..sanding the corners might not help all that much.

 

[Kian]

IMO I think ES 4x4x4s would be the best if there was some way to reduce or even stop all lock-ups and increase its corner cutting ability. I noticed that whenever I get a lock up, it's almost always because of a corner and a centre piece. Surely there's a solution to this?

Indeed, there is. Buy a Meffert's.

 

[fanwuq]

I'm I the only whose times increased by 30 seconds after getting a Meffert's?
To me, Meffert's is like type D, feels nice, but ruins your look ahead, turns slower than it feels, and ends up giving you crappy times. I was already satisfied with my Eastsheen. Now, I don't have either, but I know for sure that Hi-games.net simulators pwns all real cubes. Can anyone get a 30.01 solve on a real cube?
I think I'm the only one who voted ES who actually has a Meffert's.
Also, why care about the opinion of anyone other than Nakajima?

 

[Vulosity]

@puzzlemaster, ES can cut in the middle layers.

 

[Paul Wagner]

@puzzlemaster, ES can cut in the middle layers.

To everyone here: Meffert's is amazing and eastsheen isn't and I plan to show you. I've never even had a close to pop with a mefferts. And after a lot of breaking in it pwns. Try camcuber's mod on the Eastsheen 4x4 (I actually invented it even though it isn't really a mod) it makes it a lot better, probably exactly what a V-4 would be like.