WhatDoIPutHere's Cubing Progression - Modding YS3M! Road to: Sub-20 3x3 - Learning PLL 11/21| Sub-5 2x2 - Ortega | Sub-3 Minute 5x5 - Yau5

[WhatDoIPutHere]

I'm going to start a thread to keep me accountable and practice cubing more.
My goals are simple:
3x3: Consistent sub-20 seconds, right now am averaging ~35 seconds. I use two-look OLL and two-look PLL, working on learning full PLL.
2x2: Be able to one-look, don't have one yet but I think I will get a Gan 251 M Leap
5x5: Consistent sub-2 minutes, right now averaging ~4:30 using Redux
Pyraminx: Be able to do sub-15 seconds. Right now averaging ~20 seconds, I don't know what method I am using. Does anyone know a good method for Pyraminx?
Megaminx: Probably won't work too much on this, but my goal is consistent sub-2 minutes, right now averaging ~6 minutes I don't know what method I use, Does anyone know a good method for Megaminx?
Going into this, I think I will mainly work on 3x3 and 5x5 until I get a 2x2 or someone tells me what Pyraminx or Megaminx method to use

Today's post: 3x3
I worked on memorizing PLL algorithms today, and realized a couple things.
One of the main problems with getting sub-20 is that it typically takes me ~23 seconds for cross and F2L. During my solves, I often noticed that I have a tendency to pause between cross and F2L to find a first F2L pair. My goal is to be able to plan out my cross and the first F2L pair during inspection time.
Another problem that I have is that I am not fully color neutral. I can only start on yellow and white, otherwise I get confused during F2L. This never really has been a problem for me before, but during one of my solves in inspection time I noticed that if I did my cross on red I would only have to do 2 moves to complete the cross. I proceded to do the cross and quickly got confused during F2L. Does anyone know a good way to become color neutral?

Things that you can comment that would help a lot: A good method for Pyraminx or Megaminx, a way to become color neutral, or any other advice that you may have.

 

[WhatDoIPutHere]

I got the GAN 251 MS Leap, but I took out the logo piece while trying to adjust the tensions and... I can't get it back in!
On the subject of 3x3, I learned the remaining two look OLL algorithms and a couple PLL algorithms and have been trying to plan my first F2L pair during inspection, but for some reason I always lose the pieces that I was going to track. I have been getting more sub-30 solves, most likely due to getting better at look ahead and learning some algorithms.
My plan for learning the rest of the PLL algorithms is to learn everything EXCEPT the G Perms first, because the G Perms are longer algorithms and also are harder to recognize. All of the adjacent corner swap PLL algorithms have the solved pair on the left, and all of the diagonal corner swap algs have the corners on the front right and back left.
I still haven't gotten any replies on a good method on Pyraminx or Megaminx, or a good way to become color neutral, so those and any other advice you may have would be super useful and I would really appreciate it.

 

[NmeCuber]

a good method on Pyra

L4E is pretty good, although personally I use LBL and average sub-8

 

[lucazdoescubingstuff]

I'm going to start a thread to keep me accountable and practice cubing more.
My goals are simple:
3x3: Consistent sub-20 seconds, right now am averaging ~35 seconds. I use two-look OLL and two-look PLL, working on learning full PLL.
2x2: Be able to one-look, don't have one yet but I think I will get a Gan 251 M Leap
5x5: Consistent sub-2 minutes, right now averaging ~4:30 using Redux
Pyraminx: Be able to do sub-15 seconds. Right now averaging ~20 seconds, I don't know what method I am using. Does anyone know a good method for Pyraminx?
Megaminx: Probably won't work too much on this, but my goal is consistent sub-2 minutes, right now averaging ~6 minutes I don't know what method I use, Does anyone know a good method for Megaminx?
Going into this, I think I will mainly work on 3x3 and 5x5 until I get a 2x2 or someone tells me what Pyraminx or Megaminx method to use

Today's post: 3x3
I worked on memorizing PLL algorithms today, and realized a couple things.
One of the main problems with getting sub-20 is that it typically takes me ~23 seconds for cross and F2L. During my solves, I often noticed that I have a tendency to pause between cross and F2L to find a first F2L pair. My goal is to be able to plan out my cross and the first F2L pair during inspection time.
Another problem that I have is that I am not fully color neutral. I can only start on yellow and white, otherwise I get confused during F2L. This never really has been a problem for me before, but during one of my solves in inspection time I noticed that if I did my cross on red I would only have to do 2 moves to complete the cross. I proceded to do the cross and quickly got confused during F2L. Does anyone know a good way to become color neutral?

Things that you can comment that would help a lot: A good method for Pyraminx or Megaminx, a way to become color neutral, or any other advice that you may have.

about 2x2, is being able to one-look a long term goal? cause you gotta focus on getting sub 20 with lbl then sub 10 with ortega. afterwards sub 5 with ortega, learn cll, sub 4, more advanced stuff, sub 2, then sub 1 is one-looking

 

[WhatDoIPutHere]

about 2x2, is being able to one-look a long term goal?

Yes, I will make sure to learn all of that before being able to one-look

 

[Jorian Meeuse]

about 2x2, is being able to one-look a long term goal? cause you gotta focus on getting sub 20 with lbl then sub 10 with ortega. afterwards sub 5 with ortega, learn cll, sub 4, more advanced stuff, sub 2, then sub 1 is one-looking

Nah onelooking is necessary long before sub 1 (nobody is even officially sub 1), you need onelooking for sub 2 already, and for sub 3 it is definitely useful to be able to onelook occasionally.

 

[WhatDoIPutHere]

To be clear, what should I learn first? I would prefer not to learn anything that I won't use to one-look.

 

[Jorian Meeuse]

To be clear, what should I learn first? I would prefer not to learn anything that I won't use to one-look.

Depends on what you know already. If you don't know OLL yet, you definitely should learn that first, it's not hard. After that, learn PBL and voilà, you know Ortega. Then don't learn something for a while and just practice solving with Ortega (don't one look yet). That should get you sub 4-5, and then you can learn CLL, EG-1 and EG-2 and that's when one-looking comes in. That should be able to take you to sub 2. Extra sets like TCLL or LS can improve your times even more but that's probably a long shot for now.

 

[WhatDoIPutHere]

Depends on what you know If you don't know OLL yet, you definitely should learn that first, it's not hard. After that, learn PBL and voilà, you know Ortega. Then don't learn something for a while and just practice solving with Ortega (don't one look yet). That should get you sub 4-5, and then you can learn CLL, EG-1 and EG-2 and that's when one-looking comes in. That should be able to take you to sub 2. Extra sets like TCLL or LS can improve your times even more but that's probably a long shot for now.

Instead of learning OLL, shouldn't I just learn COLL?

 

[Jorian Meeuse]

Instead of learning OLL, shouldn't I just learn COLL?

That doesn't exist for 2x2. You have CLL though, which is the same idea as COLL. You can learn it (41 algs or something), but I would recommend learning OLL and PBL first.

 

[WhatDoIPutHere]

I have finally finished my 4 school projects just before the due date, and I have also fixed my 2x2 (won't tell you how many more hours I worked on fixing my 2x2 than on school). And yes, I broke the 2x2 within 1 hour of getting it.
I think I will also do some pyra practice during the next few days.
Sorry for not posting any progression updates, we should be getting back to it!

 

[WhatDoIPutHere]

Today's post:
2x2: I started learning CLL because I want to learn a good method right away (kind of like learning CFOP vs. learning Beginner's Method) . I plan on learning CLL, then EG.
Pyraminx: L4E is an insane step up over what I had been doing. I tried it out and on my first solve I got a 9 second solve. I plan on continuing to practice and be able to plan more during inspection. I might also check out LBL to see if that works better for me.

 

[WhatDoIPutHere]

I got a PB of 8.066 on pyra using L4E, I think the biggest thing that I need to work on for pyra is again doing more during inspection.
2x2 and 3x3 are just learning more algs, kind of boring.
Any idea how I could get faster at 5x5? Mt current PB is 3:55.93, my time for most solves is layed out:
~1 minute centers
~2 minute 15 second edges
~45 second 3x3 stage

Also, I still need to find a good method for megaminx. I'm using a method that I found on my own after getting the puzzle for christmas, and it is extremely slow.

 

[lucazdoescubingstuff]

Today's post:
2x2: I started learning CLL because I want to learn a good method right away (kind of like learning CFOP vs. learning Beginner's Method) . I plan on learning CLL, then EG.
Pyraminx: L4E is an insane step up over what I had been doing. I tried it out and on my first solve I got a 9 second solve. I plan on continuing to practice and be able to plan more during inspection. I might also check out LBL to see if that works better for me.

don't rush on learning cll, take baby steps and learn ortega. get sub 5 and THEN learn cll

 

[WhatDoIPutHere]

3x3: I've been working on being color neutral lately, the way I have been doing this is by just choosing a color that isn't white or yellow and has a good cross case on it, and just starting the solve on that side. I have also been trying to speed up my solves by doing an X-Cross (doing the cross and one F2L pair), but every time I do it, my cross ends up taking forever. The way I decide if I am going to do an X-Cross is I look around the cube for any existing pairs, then, if there are any, I note which color the top of the F2L pair would be and use that color for the cross.
I've also been getting better at F2L by slowing down and looking ahead. I wasn't exactly making a conscious decision to slow down, but during my practice solves (hand scrambled) I was passively improving on look ahead.
I also sanded down the corners of my corner pieces on my 3x3. Not sure if this will actually make a difference in the reverse corner-cutting, but it is worth a try.
Also, during some recent solves, I have noticed that my cross and F2L take around 30 seconds of my solve, which will definitely need to be shortened.

2x2: I'm not sure if I should continue learning CLL or learn Ortega. People keep telling me to learn Ortega first, but I'm not sure why.

Why I haven't posted: I've had a lot of homework lately, plus a school play production. For the play I was both doing sound (controlling volume on the mics and adjusting lots of other things) and acting, so it was very stressful. I also have a robotics competition coming up soon (state championship!), so my robotics team is meeting very frequently. Definitely am not writing this during a robotics meet because I don't want to type up a slideshow on other stuff.

Helpful things that you could reply: Ways to get faster at 5x5, a good method for megaminx, or any other advice that you might have.

 

[CatSharked]

2x2: I'm not sure if I should continue learning CLL or learn Ortega. People keep telling me to learn Ortega first, but I'm not sure why.

If you know Ortega, learning CLL will be easier. If you run into a CLL case you don't know, you can just use Ortega to solve the last layer instead. Also, Ortega has CLL algorithms in it.

 

[abunickabhi]

3x3: I've been working on being color neutral lately, the way I have been doing this is by just choosing a color that isn't white or yellow and has a good cross case on it, and just starting the solve on that side. I have also been trying to speed up my solves by doing an X-Cross (doing the cross and one F2L pair), but every time I do it, my cross ends up taking forever. The way I decide if I am going to do an X-Cross is I look around the cube for any existing pairs, then, if there are any, I note which color the top of the F2L pair would be and use that color for the cross.
I've also been getting better at F2L by slowing down and looking ahead. I wasn't exactly making a conscious decision to slow down, but during my practice solves (hand scrambled) I was passively improving on look ahead.
I also sanded down the corners of my corner pieces on my 3x3. Not sure if this will actually make a difference in the reverse corner-cutting, but it is worth a try.
Also, during some recent solves, I have noticed that my cross and F2L take around 30 seconds of my solve, which will definitely need to be shortened.

2x2: I'm not sure if I should continue learning CLL or learn Ortega. People keep telling me to learn Ortega first, but I'm not sure why.

Why I haven't posted: I've had a lot of homework lately, plus a school play production. For the play I was both doing sound (controlling volume on the mics and adjusting lots of other things) and acting, so it was very stressful. I also have a robotics competition coming up soon (state championship!), so my robotics team is meeting very frequently. Definitely am not writing this during a robotics meet because I don't want to type up a slideshow on other stuff.

Helpful things that you could reply: Ways to get faster at 5x5, a good method for megaminx, or any other advice that you might have.

To get faster at 5x5, I would suggest using Hoya method.

For color neutral training on 3x3, try to do 100 solves on each color in a session.

 

[WhatDoIPutHere]

To get faster at 5x5, I would suggest using Hoya method.

I've watched a couple videos and Hoya seems more confusing than Yau, I think I might just learn Yau

 

[ProStar]

I've watched a couple videos and Hoya seems more confusing than Yau, I think I might just learn Yau

Hoya is a decent method but underdeveloped. Yau and Yau5 (yes they’re different methods) are a bit more popular and both good methods (and probably better than Hoya). Redux is the most popular 5x5 method by far, and is therefore the most developed, but isn’t necessarily better than either Yau method.

 

[WhatDoIPutHere]

What is the difference between Yau and Yau5?