Help me finally progress!

[J41]

Hello!

Some of you may have seen me post about still using the beginner method, despite solving a lot and learning how to solve a long time ago. I'm determined to change that.

My PB at the moment with the beginner method is 10.01 seconds. My global average would be around 21-22 seconds. At this stage, I'm just trying to learn F2L intuitively. I hit a PB of ~21 seconds just before using F2L (the cases aligned nicely, no cases I didn't know (of which there are several)).

I still solve the cross at the top. I'm white/yellow neutral but don't solve on any other colour typically. I'm going to my first comp ever next month, and typically use the GAN Mini (though have quite a lot of 3x3s, as I enjoy collecting).

Anyway, I'm planning to use this thread for motivation and accountability, and just to track progress over time of (finally) my CFOP journey.

 

[Arcanist]

Hello!

Some of you may have seen me post about still using the beginner method, despite solving a lot and learning how to solve a long time ago. I'm determined to change that.

My PB at the moment with the beginner method is 10.01 seconds. My global average would be around 21-22 seconds. At this stage, I'm just trying to learn F2L intuitively. I hit a PB of ~21 seconds just before using F2L (the cases aligned nicely, no cases I didn't know (of which there are several)).

I still solve the cross at the top. I'm white/yellow neutral but don't solve on any other colour typically. I'm going to my first comp ever next month, and typically use the GAN Mini (though have quite a lot of 3x3s, as I enjoy collecting).

Anyway, I'm planning to use this thread for motivation and accountability, and just to track progress over time of (finally) my CFOP journey.

i dont think anyone is this fast with the beginner method

 

[J41]

i dont think anyone is this fast with the beginner method

I am! It's horribly inefficient, though, hence this thread. I feel like I've pretty much maxed out what I can do physically at this point without changing method.

 

[NmeCuber]

How do you get a 10.01 with beginner's method!?

 

[J41]

How do you get a 10.01 with beginner's method!?

Last layer skip. Aside from the 10.01, my next best would be 13.xx on a few occasions, I think.

 

[J41]

And just got an 18.75 using F2L!

For the last 100 solves or so, I've just been forcing myself to use F2L, even though it's making my solves wildly inconsistent. Honestly wish I sacrificed my times short-term a long time ago for the long-term pay-off.

 

[Jorian Meeuse]

Is it okay for me to be suspicious that you use handscrambles? That's the only way I can see a 10.01 PB happening from someone who uses beginners method.

 

[J41]

Is it okay for me to be suspicious that you use handscrambles? That's the only way I can see a 10.01 PB happening from someone who uses beginners method.

I don't remember the last time I used a hand scramble for a timed solve.

I don't mind if you're suspicious at all, but it's certainly been an interesting start to this thread! I wish this weren't the case, but I've simply spammed tens of thousands of solves using the beginner method over the last couple of years.

Like I said in the OP, my average is around 21-22 seconds, but I get sub 15 solves from time to time, including that 10.01.

 

[ruffleduck]

How do you get a 10.01 with beginner's method!?

 

[Arcanist]

yeah but that guy dosen't main lbl and he is also very fast with other methods

 

[J41]

yeah but that guy dosen't main lbl and he is also very fast with other methods

To be fair, I assume that person also hasn't used LBL for tens of thousands of solves, though I haven't watched the video, so could be wrong.

If nothing else, getting relatively quick times with a relatively poor method demonstrates an inability at this point to learn CFOP (which I have tried multiple times).

I'm a little surprised it's ostensibly so unbelievable, but that's okay; perhaps I should be prouder of my beginner method times than I am!

 

[J41]

And just got an 18.75 using F2L!

For the last 100 solves or so, I've just been forcing myself to use F2L, even though it's making my solves wildly inconsistent. Honestly wish I sacrificed my times short-term a long time ago for the long-term pay-off.

15.35.

 

[BirdCubing]

Use CFOP, It would help you a lot! Even though your times are slow, you will improve very quickly and soon be able to get better times.

 

[J41]

Use CFOP, It would help you a lot! Even though your times are slow, you will improve very quickly and soon be able to get better times.

Thanks for the post! This is definitely the plan - seeing big potential gains already. I'm a bit disappointed I put it off for so long, but better is later than never.

 

[BirdCubing]

Thanks for the post! This is definitely the plan - seeing big potential gains already. I'm a bit disappointed I put it off for so long, but better is later than never.

Your welcome!

 

[Arcanist]

To be fair, I assume that person also hasn't used LBL for tens of thousands of solves, though I haven't watched the video, so could be wrong.

If nothing else, getting relatively quick times with a relatively poor method demonstrates an inability at this point to learn CFOP (which I have tried multiple times).

I'm a little surprised it's ostensibly so unbelievable, but that's okay; perhaps I should be prouder of my beginner method times than I am!

Yeah he uses like cfop and roux for tens of thousands of solves however his quick tps + case recognition definitely transfers over to lbl. if you look at the channel you can see he is very good at 3 by 3.

 

[quanloh]

I am not being helpful, just come to say LBL sub-20 is a big wow to me.

 

[J41]

I am not being helpful, just come to say LBL sub-20 is a big wow to me.

A tentative thank you! Haha. I wouldn't say I'm sub-20 globally at this stage (but close). I hope when I'm actually properly sub-20, it's with F2L at the very least.

 

[Americancuber232]

Hello!

Some of you may have seen me post about still using the beginner method, despite solving a lot and learning how to solve a long time ago. I'm determined to change that.

My PB at the moment with the beginner method is 10.01 seconds. My global average would be around 21-22 seconds. At this stage, I'm just trying to learn F2L intuitively. I hit a PB of ~21 seconds just before using F2L (the cases aligned nicely, no cases I didn't know (of which there are several)).

I still solve the cross at the top. I'm white/yellow neutral but don't solve on any other colour typically. I'm going to my first comp ever next month, and typically use the GAN Mini (though have quite a lot of 3x3s, as I enjoy collecting).

Anyway, I'm planning to use this thread for motivation and accountability, and just to track progress over time of (finally) my CFOP journey.

How long have you been using the beginner method because I use cfop and still havent got a ten seconds solve my best is 13 seconds.

 

[J41]

How long have you been using the beginner method because I use cfop and still havent got a ten seconds solve my best is 13 seconds.

I learnt in maybe 2010 or so (memory is starting to fail a little), but then ramped it up in 2020, and have been solving a lot since then.