byu
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My memo has actually become significantly slower (by maybe 10-20 seconds) recently because of my transition to M2/R2. I'm used to UR and UBL as buffers, and not DF and DFR
BLD HELP!!! (Help With Pochmann Method)
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Okay, I just made my almost first solve using Pochmann. The only problems I had is that two pieces weren't correctly oriented and I somehow messed up the corners, so I had to redo those. And I had to do a J (b) perm for the last layer also because I think I didn't account for the parity, right? I'm doing corners then edges. Any tips on not messing up the corners, and how do I fix the orientation of the two pieces? They were these two pieces / when facing the up face.
Gparker
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Sometimes when your on the last layer youll just have a J perm, but its not unexpected, when you memo youll see. when a peice is mis oriented, you act like breaking into a new cycle and then you reshoot it with the correct orientation
byu
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I am assuming the two pieces are edges. This can occur if an edge is misoriented before you begin, but in the correct place. It is always good to check before starting to make sure there are none, and if there are some (which happens a lot) remember them. Later, flip them with the buffer piece (UR)
Gparker
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if the orange green is flipped, so will your buffer, you shoot to the orange of orange green and then the green of green orange
I got it. Last night I had my first actual Pochmann solve, but I had to go back and fix the corners. And since I mess up on the edges sometimes and it messes up the corners, I'm starting edges then corners so nothing gets messed up. Then once I can sub-5 (avg of 5) at Pochmann without any mess-ups, then I'll start BLD. This is going to take a long time.
I just had my first full solve!!! Nothing got messed up. Edges first is better.
I just had my first full solve!!! Nothing got messed up. Edges first is better.
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Gparker
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so you actually memod? or did you just do it with your eyes open. if you did it with your eyes open then why wait till your sub 5? as soon as i learned a different memo system i went at it and got it
Gparker
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oh, do only a couple of more solves and then learn memorization. dont let it matter how long it takes to solve it blindfolded. my first was about 13 minutes and now im down to 7:30 consistantly. ill give you some links for memo
This guy uses M2,old pochmann but the memorization is still the same
Corners:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N3dh8TuYu8
Edges:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snlPUuaAMD4&feature=related
Example solve:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTlC1I93Dzo&feature=channel
after you master pochmann i reccomend watching his tutorial for M2
And for 5 minutes pochmann is around 2 minutes maybe with fridrich
This guy uses M2,old pochmann but the memorization is still the same
Corners:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N3dh8TuYu8
Edges:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snlPUuaAMD4&feature=related
Example solve:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTlC1I93Dzo&feature=channel
after you master pochmann i reccomend watching his tutorial for M2
And for 5 minutes pochmann is around 2 minutes maybe with fridrich
Gparker
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well the memorization is still the same, just a different buffer, ill give you another link and he explains the same method with old pochmann very well
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkkLN6_x8Mc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkkLN6_x8Mc
I actually think I can memo the edges myself. Its just which sticker you have to memo that goes into the UL position, right? And I can use the A-X thing that I think Eric teaches. I just have to watch his corners video, unless its somewhat of the same simple thing.
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erik limeback's tutorial is good
cookingfat
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Indeed. I learnt the classic pochmann method from badmephisto's video, but I much prefer the memo system that eric limeback teaches in his video.
Gparker
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his corners is tapping and letters, if you watch it youll see what im talking about. did you watch the link i just gave you? that explains exactly what your question is and its the exact same thing eric limeback does
Gparker
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okay, when your comfortable with solving with eyes open, learn the memo. thats exactly what i did. and remember when you actually attempt, take as long as you need. you ever hear of bob burton from cubewhiz? his first try took him over 80 minutes! some people get over 30 but its succesful 
cookingfat
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okay, when your comfortable with solving with eyes open, learn the memo. thats exactly what i did. and remember when you actually attempt, take as long as you need. you ever hear of bob burton from cubewhiz? his first try took him over 80 minutes! some people get over 30 but its succesful
the first success I timed took about 18 minutes. The first actual solve I did was probably over 25.
Before I did my first solve, I used to practice execution by writing down the memo, however you do it (AE FX GL etc) and solving the cube under a table or towel while reading the memo. You could do this for corners and edges separately at first, then try together. After you are comfortable doing the actual solve without looking at the cube, you could then progress to trying to fully memorize edges and then solve just the edges blindfolded. Then do corners on their own, then try both.
At first, do not even worry about time, like Gparker said, just take as long as you need. Getting faster just happens the more you do.
