is the Gan 11 M Pro overrated?

[Nmile7300]

This is a weird way to think about it, but the more people say the 11 M Pro is overrated, the less overrated it becomes. Just a random thought I had. In regards to the topic at hand, I don't have a Gan 11 M Pro so I don't really have an opinion.

 

[BenChristman1]

This is a weird way to think about it, but the more people say the 11 M Pro is overrated, the less overrated it becomes. Just a random thought I had. In regards to the topic at hand, I don't have a Gan 11 M Pro so I don't really have an opinion.

Would you mind explaining how that works? I big stoopid with 3 O’s.

 

[Humble Cuber]

Personally I think that GAN cubes are good. But way to expensive for what you get. Although I like GAN cube, I still use other cubes as my mains, like the GTS3M and RS3M 2020 because I'm personally not a fan of the weight of GAN cubes (they're way too light), I haven't bought many of the new GAN releases so this might have changed for me but those are just my thoughts.

 

[Nmile7300]

Would you mind explaining how that works? I big stoopid with 3 O’s.

Yeah lol the more I think about it the less it makes sense. Best I can explain it is, if the general consensus is that something is overrated, then it isn’t overrated anymore because most people aren’t overrating it.

 

[BenChristman1]

Yeah lol the more I think about it the less it makes sense. Best I can explain it is, if the general consensus is that something is overrated, then it isn’t overrated anymore because most people aren’t overrating it.

I’m still confused, but I’m sure that you’re probably right.

 

[ruffleduck]

I’m still confused, but I’m sure that you’re probably right.

overrated = something many people overly praise
people who think something is overrated = people who are not overly praising it
more people who think something is overrated = more people who are not overly praising it
more people who are not overly praising it = less overrated

 

[BenChristman1]

overrated = many people overly praise something
people who think something is overrated = people who are not overly praising it
more people who think something is overrated = more people who are not overly praising it
more people who are not overly praising it = less overrated

big brain boi

 

[qwr]

It's like the quote: no one goes there any more, it's too crowded.

 

[Nmile7300]

overrated = something many people overly praise
people who think something is overrated = people who are not overly praising it
more people who think something is overrated = more people who are not overly praising it
more people who are not overly praising it = less overrated

You explained my thinking perfectly, thanks.

 

[Jonathan Cuber]

Performs very differently to a GAN Air M. I have both and they are both distinctly different, so whoever told you they feel identical either doesn't have both cubes or didn't make a very good judgement of both cubes.

ok thanks for letting me know

 

[robdawg421]

I'll be interested to hear your thoughts on the 356 Lite M

So I received my GAN 356 M Lite today as well as a MoYu WeiLong WR M 2020 and I was a bit surprised. Also pretty interesting perspective on the MoYu RS3 M 2020 but i'll get to that after.

So the GAN Lite... felt very airy and did indeed feel quite similar to the flagship. The magnets on mine are def weaker than the 11 M Pro. The pro is on setting 2 and has the default center magnets. Default spring settings. I do definitely agree that they are extremely close in quality feel and if you handed them to a random person they would be like these are nice.. and not really feel a gigantic difference. Perhaps people enjoy the various ranges the flagship has.. but def not matching the jump in money.. up to personal preference I would say. A dang sweet cube if you ask me especially for the price.. and it is a GAN feel for sure.

But the MoYu WeiLong WR M 2020 is what surprised me. It also has the matte plastic.. and it was waaaaay closer to the GAN than I expected. It has even weaker magnets than the GAN Lite and has a very airy feel. I sort of imagined GAN and MoYu had totally different feels.

I have been out of cubing for a while and tried to get a solid assortment of cubes recently. 3x3 initially I got a bunch of RS3 M 2020's and the GAN 11 M Pro. The RS3 M 2020's was my first cube because of all the rave reviews and I also gave a bunch to friends who were cubing back when I was. Then mostly moved to larger cubes and got about 9 large cubes. The MoYu AoSu WR M 4x4 and the Mofang Jiaoshi Meilong M 4x4.. figured would sort of compare to a top end MoYu and their off-brand/value brand. In can certainly feel the difference and assumed the MoYu flagship would have a similar feel to the AoSu. Actually getting the 3x3 flagship was a huge change in my expectations.

I don't think it is the difference in matte plastic vs. the "shiny" plastic of the AoSu. And I realize comparing 3x3s and 4x4s is apples or oranges.. but man... really did not see like a dramatic difference between the GAN feel and the MoYu feel with these particular cubes.

Anyhow... I think the RS3 M is a whole different, slower feel.. but its only $9.. and is an excellent beginners cube and one that doesn't hold back many speedcubers. The GAN Lite is an amazing feeling cube... and for $27 is a great deal for a true GAN. And... the MoYu WeiLong WR M 2020 isn't a bad cube either for $35. Not really sure if there is a mid-range MoYu at the moment. To me they seem like most of their lineup is various older models that aren't insanely different in design.

To close out this rambling post.. for 4x4 I like MoYu (but the Jiaoshi Meilong 4x4 I hate).. and really... MGC is great going larger.

Edit: Sorry! The Jiaoshi Meilong 4x4 I actually like. Not as much as the AoSu... but... I HATE the MoYu RS4 M. And that seems like its supposed to be the RS3 M of 4x4s.

 

[qwr]

Not really sure if there is a mid-range MoYu at the moment. To me they seem like most of their lineup is various older models that aren't insanely different in design.

If you have the money, I suggest you try out the original WRM/GTS3 and GTS2. Classic MoYu cubes.

 

[robdawg421]

If you have the money, I suggest you try out the original WRM/GTS3 and GTS2. Classic MoYu cubes.

Almost got the WRM non-2020 but didn't like how the holes are visible on the center caps. GTS2M is a possibility.

 

[Kaiju_cube]

glad you like the 356 Lite. I do dozens of solves a day on my 356's,.. I do a couple on the 11 M Pro and Air models. I think the 356's are just perfect. Goldilocks cubes. Not too light, not too stiff/magnetic,.. just right. They hold their shape and don't deform but I never feel like the magnets are slowing anything down or fighting me. They're smooth, easy to turn, and fun to solve.

 

[Zain_A24]

I have the Gan Air, Air SM, 356, 356 XS, and two of the 356 Lite M (non adjustable).. also the RS and the 11 M Pro. I really like Gan cubes, my first Gan was the Lite M. I have the backpack, the Megaminx, the Pyraminx,.. I even have the keychain, the 356i and the robot.

I really like Gan cubes. I like how smooth they are and how well they turn and corner cut. They just have that soft feel that's so nice.

Of course I was excited to get the 11 M Pro when it came out.

Well I've been using it for months now and I have to say,.. I really like it the least out of all the Gan cubes I have. Can you have too many magnets? Is it the magnetic core? For me it feels like the 356 is just perfect, and honestly the 356 Lite M's are probably my favorite. They needed no adjusting out of the box and they feel and turn great, I get good times with them and they're just great cubes. And for $29. they're less than half the price of the 11 M Pro.

All weekend I've been playing with only my Gan cubes. Scramble them all, solve them, over and over. And I know instantly when I start using the 11 M Pro because I can feel that the magnets are always pulling on the turns, it feels like the cube is lubed with thick vasoline (it's not of course). I've put in speed lube and dnm-37, I've put the corner magnets all on the weakest setting, I've made sure the springs have flex and aren't tight... and it's still the slowest Gan cube I have. It almost feels like you fight the turns.

None of my other Gans feel this way which makes me think it's all the magnets in the core, because that's the biggest difference to the other cubes.

I look online and everyone raves about the Gan 11 M Pro as being the best flagship and the greatest cube Gan has ever made, and I keep trying to like it, but if I had to give away all but one or two of my Gan cubes I'd keep the 356 XS and one of the 356 Lite M ones.

If I had a friend that was desperate to get the Gan 11 M Pro and saying it's so expensive, I'd really encourage them to get the 356 Lite M for $29. I honestly feel like it's a better cube.

Maybe I'm crazy, maybe this will be a pretty unpopular opinion, but I'm not trying to hate on Gan I really like them. But whenever I use the new 11 M Pro I'm like, "is it just me? This feels so slow and weighted down?" ... I look on youtube for videos (looking for confirmation bias? Is it just me?) .. but everyone seems to love this cube.

I get that Gan has to and wants to constantly be releasing cubes because they want that steady influx of profits, that's just business,.. I get it. But I really think after doing hundreds and hundreds of solves this weekend with all the cubes that the 356 XS and Lite M are the best cubes they've made. They're fast and smooth and the turning is effortless with no resistance.

I think I know what the issue is...

So I recently got a hold of Mo's GAN 11M Pro as he tries out the 11M Duo and I've been doing some solves on it (video out soon if anyone's interested).

I can safely say, it wasn't good. The cube didn't turn very well at all. Seemed like there was some internal friction reducing cornercutting and flow of turns.

So why do so many people say this cube is so great? Allow me to explain.

This cube is the first from GAN to go with this new plastic on the pieces, and when I touch the pieces (not the tracks) I realised it was bone-dry and was quite grippy on the inside (which is not what you want). Mo seemed to have been lubing the internal tracks of the pieces but this cube requires lube on the pieces themselves to reduce friction. As soon as I did that, this cube was great. I think this should solve most of your issues in terms of the lack of flow and speed. And for reference if you want to start from scratch I think the default was 1 on the Light Blue nut and 2 clicks down of the clear nut.

As for the corner magnets, you have the option to remove them completely, which might solve your issues. Alternatively, the advice above may help since the issue is likely not with the corner magnets, but with the setup of the cube.

Hope this helps.

 

[Cxcube]

what is the difference between 356m and 356m lite?
is it only GES ?

 

[Flowkap]

The only difference between the 356 M and the lite version is the absence of extra ges nuts.

My first 3x3 was the GAN 356 Lite M. Seems I accidentally bought one of the best (I love it btw). My second 3x3 is a MGC 3 elite. I love the MGC 4x4 and 5x5. The 3x3 in comparison is just ok to be honest. Planning on getting the wrm 2021 maglev next.

 

[Cxcube]

Thanks for answering

 

[siyo0n]

I have the Gan Air, Air SM, 356, 356 XS, and two of the 356 Lite M (non adjustable).. also the RS and the 11 M Pro. I really like Gan cubes, my first Gan was the Lite M. I have the backpack, the Megaminx, the Pyraminx,.. I even have the keychain, the 356i and the robot.

I really like Gan cubes. I like how smooth they are and how well they turn and corner cut. They just have that soft feel that's so nice.

Of course I was excited to get the 11 M Pro when it came out.

Well I've been using it for months now and I have to say,.. I really like it the least out of all the Gan cubes I have. Can you have too many magnets? Is it the magnetic core? For me it feels like the 356 is just perfect, and honestly the 356 Lite M's are probably my favorite. They needed no adjusting out of the box and they feel and turn great, I get good times with them and they're just great cubes. And for $29. they're less than half the price of the 11 M Pro.

All weekend I've been playing with only my Gan cubes. Scramble them all, solve them, over and over. And I know instantly when I start using the 11 M Pro because I can feel that the magnets are always pulling on the turns, it feels like the cube is lubed with thick vasoline (it's not of course). I've put in speed lube and dnm-37, I've put the corner magnets all on the weakest setting, I've made sure the springs have flex and aren't tight... and it's still the slowest Gan cube I have. It almost feels like you fight the turns.

None of my other Gans feel this way which makes me think it's all the magnets in the core, because that's the biggest difference to the other cubes.

I look online and everyone raves about the Gan 11 M Pro as being the best flagship and the greatest cube Gan has ever made, and I keep trying to like it, but if I had to give away all but one or two of my Gan cubes I'd keep the 356 XS and one of the 356 Lite M ones.

If I had a friend that was desperate to get the Gan 11 M Pro and saying it's so expensive, I'd really encourage them to get the 356 Lite M for $29. I honestly feel like it's a better cube.

Maybe I'm crazy, maybe this will be a pretty unpopular opinion, but I'm not trying to hate on Gan I really like them. But whenever I use the new 11 M Pro I'm like, "is it just me? This feels so slow and weighted down?" ... I look on youtube for videos (looking for confirmation bias? Is it just me?) .. but everyone seems to love this cube.

I get that Gan has to and wants to constantly be releasing cubes because they want that steady influx of profits, that's just business,.. I get it. But I really think after doing hundreds and hundreds of solves this weekend with all the cubes that the 356 XS and Lite M are the best cubes they've made. They're fast and smooth and the turning is effortless with no resistance.

I have the Gan 11 m pro and I just got the x an tornado v3 pineor