is the Gan 11 M Pro overrated?

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I have the Gan Air, Air SM, 356, 356 XS, and two of the 356 Lite M (non adjustable).. also the RS and the 11 M Pro. I really like Gan cubes, my first Gan was the Lite M. I have the backpack, the Megaminx, the Pyraminx,.. I even have the keychain, the 356i and the robot.

I really like Gan cubes. I like how smooth they are and how well they turn and corner cut. They just have that soft feel that's so nice.

Of course I was excited to get the 11 M Pro when it came out.

Well I've been using it for months now and I have to say,.. I really like it the least out of all the Gan cubes I have. Can you have too many magnets? Is it the magnetic core? For me it feels like the 356 is just perfect, and honestly the 356 Lite M's are probably my favorite. They needed no adjusting out of the box and they feel and turn great, I get good times with them and they're just great cubes. And for $29. they're less than half the price of the 11 M Pro.

All weekend I've been playing with only my Gan cubes. Scramble them all, solve them, over and over. And I know instantly when I start using the 11 M Pro because I can feel that the magnets are always pulling on the turns, it feels like the cube is lubed with thick vasoline (it's not of course). I've put in speed lube and dnm-37, I've put the corner magnets all on the weakest setting, I've made sure the springs have flex and aren't tight... and it's still the slowest Gan cube I have. It almost feels like you fight the turns.

None of my other Gans feel this way which makes me think it's all the magnets in the core, because that's the biggest difference to the other cubes.

I look online and everyone raves about the Gan 11 M Pro as being the best flagship and the greatest cube Gan has ever made, and I keep trying to like it, but if I had to give away all but one or two of my Gan cubes I'd keep the 356 XS and one of the 356 Lite M ones.

If I had a friend that was desperate to get the Gan 11 M Pro and saying it's so expensive, I'd really encourage them to get the 356 Lite M for $29. I honestly feel like it's a better cube.

Maybe I'm crazy, maybe this will be a pretty unpopular opinion, but I'm not trying to hate on Gan I really like them. But whenever I use the new 11 M Pro I'm like, "is it just me? This feels so slow and weighted down?" ... I look on youtube for videos (looking for confirmation bias? Is it just me?) .. but everyone seems to love this cube.

I get that Gan has to and wants to constantly be releasing cubes because they want that steady influx of profits, that's just business,.. I get it. But I really think after doing hundreds and hundreds of solves this weekend with all the cubes that the 356 XS and Lite M are the best cubes they've made. They're fast and smooth and the turning is effortless with no resistance.
 
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you literally just contradicted what you said but yes i would agree
Overpriced is not equal to overrated.
(Not saying they're overpriced)
Just messaging so I get reminded to share my thoughts as a GAN insider on GAN in general but in terms of the initial question about the 11M Pro, it's mainly a setup thing. It can vary a lot depending in settings, lube etc and I think it's just a matter if finding the best setup for the individual.
 
but like I said I've set it up extensively and have lubed it twice with 2 different kinds. It's not the setup, that's just how the cube is.

I'm not saying the 11 M Pro isn't a good cube, it's a good cube. But the 356 M Lite out of the box, is perfect. No setup needed and it's a $29. cube.

And I've bought 3 of the Lite ones, ( Black Internals, White internals, another black internals I gave my Son,) plus the 'regular' 356, the 356 XS,... they're all perfect out of the box,.. and consistently so, all of them have felt the same. Even the Monster Go magnetic cube for $17. is very good.

I understand Gan likes to innovate and push the envelope and all but imo, the 356 is perfect, and less expensive. I mean there has to come a point where you wonder just what else can realistically be done to a simple 3x3 puzzle cube. I'm just not convinced that 'Moar Magnets!' was the best thing.

I think the 11 M Pro is a lot of hype and the 356 is better,... and less expensive.

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maybe you just don't like more magnets. did you try without the corner magnets? (which defeats the purpose but still try it)
 
just to prove I'm not a hater or a troll... (that's not even counting the keychain, the 4x4, the Megaminx,.. the Gan Pyraminx is the stickerless one in the pic)

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Yeah I played around with it all weekend. But it feels funny to spend $65. on a cube that has taken more setup time and playing around than any of the other cubes I've gotten from them,.. and it still doesn't feel as good as the others. But I guess it's just me because I can't find one review or video that mirrors my feelings. I want to like it, it's the newest one, but I honestly think the 356 is a better cube.

If anything I hope that if there's one person out there sad that they don't have the latest flagship from Gan,.. don't feel so bad. If you have a Gan you have a Gan and you're not really missing anything.

And if you don't have one and you really want one bad but think there's no way you'll get $65 together for a cube,.. get the 356 M Lite for $29. .. or even the Monster Go M for less than $20. They are great cubes that have that soft Gan 'feel' they're famous for.
 
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Perhaps it's because it's only 16 more. It need more more magnets.

Corner edge (Done)
Corner Core (Done)
Edge Core.
Edge Center
Center Core (Instead of Springs)

The 356 M Lite is awesome imo. However it's only a tiny bit more for the non lite version, and you can play with spring swaps.
 
It could also be you aren't used to magnets doing what magnets do in that way. As far as I know it's the only core magnet 3x3.

I forget who it was now, but a big cuber said they didn't like magnets at all when they came out, then just got used to it. Now they can't go back.
 
I mean I've got like 100 cubes or something,.. I'm pretty used to magnets :D I'm showing 9 other Gan cubes in that photo, I'm no stranger to Gan or magnets.

I just find it amusing a $65. cube needs so much setup work and still doesn't feel as good as the $30. one right out of the box.
 
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Not sure how this is contradictory, Overrated ≠ Overpriced.
You said that the majority of the community likes something that you agree is overpriced. Overpriced = bad. If it wasn't bad, every speedcuber would be buying a gan 11. Again, you think the majority of the community likes something that is overpriced (which is bad). By definition, overrated = something bad (in this case, being overpriced) that many people like.
 
GAN cubes are certainly good, but IMO they are definitely not worth how much they cost. You know a cube costs too much when even the "budget" version of it is more expensive than most other cubes on the market.
If you like their products enough to be okay with spending that much though, ain't my place to judge, you do you.
 
yeah, the market decides. I know after the last round (11 M Pro and their 4x4), I'm going to be a lot more cautious in the future. Especially since I discovered DaYan cubes (and their Megaminx) and found them on par with Gan for a lot less money.

I'm expecting the new DaYan I preordered to come in soon, and I want the new X-Man Tornado V2 when it comes out (mostly I think the red magnets look really cool),.. but I'm not sure what it would take to want to buy another Gan 3x3.

..I'd probably buy another 356 Lite M though, those cubes are fantastic.
 
Overpriced is not equal to overrated.
(Not saying they're overpriced)
Just messaging so I get reminded to share my thoughts as a GAN insider on GAN in general but in terms of the initial question about the 11M Pro, it's mainly a setup thing. It can vary a lot depending in settings, lube etc and I think it's just a matter if finding the best setup for the individual.
i guess thats true. but i do think they are both of those things
 
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