Whats the equivilant to a sub 10 solve on a 4x4?

[thread hijack] Well, i was thinking about the equivalent of sub 20 on the 3x3. What does everybody think the equivalent to sub 20 is on other cubes?

I'd suggest

2x2 - sub 5s
4x4 - sub 1:10
5x5 - sub 2:10
OH - sub 30 or less
BLD - sub 2:00

I know that this seems quite high, but I think that people forget how much effort they put into becoming sub 20 in the first place. Perhaps I'm overcompensating.
Also, I don't mean sub 20 'relatively', as in 'how many people are that fast', I mean in terms of effort/practice.

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to the OP:

for 4x4 - sub 45
for 5x5 - sub 1:15
3x3 BLD - sub 45
OH - sub 16.

again, maybe a little high. i'm completely guessing. I dont think that a sub 10 solve equivalent really exists on 2x2, because almost anybody can get sub 1 on a very lucky scramble.
 
A sub-40 solve.


Not true, you can see Nakaji, Harris, Erik get sub-10s all the time, but you don't see any of them getting sub-40s all the time. I think sub-45 would be more accurate.

And Escher, I get sub-25 OH solves constantly, but only 3 times have I ever had sub-10.

(I hope you mean sub-10 on a 3x3 = ? seconds on a 4x4...if I'm wrong, ignore this post.)
 
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A sub-40 solve.


Not true, you can see Nakaji, Harris, Erik get sub-10s all the time, but you don't see any of them getting sub-40s all the time. I think sub-45 would be more accurate.

And Escher, I get sub-25 OH solves constantly, but only 3 times have I ever had sub-10.

(I hope you mean sub-10 on a 3x3 = ? seconds on a 4x4...if I'm wrong, ignore this post.)

Being sub-10 on 3x3 doesn't necessarily mean they'd have the equivalent of sub-10 on 4x4, unless they've practiced 4x4 as much as they did 3x3.
 
3x3 BLD: I would say sub-50

gotta be higher than that. there have been 37 sub 10 solves in competition. there has been 1 sub 50 BLD solve.

if we go by the 37 sub 10 solves the numbers would be as such:

BLD- sub 1:12.08
4x4- sub 47.31
5x5- sub 1:23.50
OH- sub 17.40

4x4 and 5x5 blind do not have enough results to reasonably count for this but the 4x4 top 37 are sub 18:07. 5x5 blind would be impossible because there are only 23 total successful solves done by only 8 people.
 
3x3 BLD: I would say sub-50

gotta be higher than that. there have been 37 sub 10 solves in competition. there has been 1 sub 50 BLD solve.

if we go by the 37 sub 10 solves the numbers would be as such:

BLD- sub 1:12.08
4x4- sub 47.31
5x5- sub 1:23.50
OH- sub 17.40

4x4 and 5x5 blind do not have enough results to reasonably count for this but the 4x4 top 37 are sub 18:07. 5x5 blind would be impossible because there are only 23 total successful solves done by only 8 people.

Hmm, but then that would mean that Ville Seppanen can get the something like equivalent of a sub 7 avg. I dont think we should go on official solves, particularly not with BLD.
 
You can't just count the top 37 results for all events. You should control for how many results have been recorded for each.
 
3x3 BLD: I would say sub-50

gotta be higher than that. there have been 37 sub 10 solves in competition. there has been 1 sub 50 BLD solve.

if we go by the 37 sub 10 solves the numbers would be as such:

BLD- sub 1:12.08
4x4- sub 47.31
5x5- sub 1:23.50
OH- sub 17.40

4x4 and 5x5 blind do not have enough results to reasonably count for this but the 4x4 top 37 are sub 18:07. 5x5 blind would be impossible because there are only 23 total successful solves done by only 8 people.

I remember a similar thread from before.
You use % not the number of participants...
 
Don't even talk about 4x4 and 5x5 BLD. 18:07 is a crap 4BLD time, nowhere NEAR the equivalent of a sub-10 3x3 single.

I'm going to try to compute this using percent, assuming that the community overall has an equal distribution of skill in every event (which is a lie, but almost certainly more accurate than assuming that the same number of people are good at each event).

18 people have done sub-10 in competition; out of 4850 people this is 0.3711% of people. So, rounding up:
- For 4x4, there are 1417 people so we want times 6 people can get, i.e. 45.06 seconds or better (let's say sub-45).
- For 5x5, there are 757 people so we want times 3 people can get, i.e. 1:16.36 seconds or better (sub-1:15? sub-1:20?).
- For BLD, there are only 424 competitors so we want times 2 people can get, i.e. 52.27 seconds or better (but people can do much better in comp than they have so let's say sub-50).
- For OH, there are 1374 people so we want times 6 people can get, i.e. 15.80 seconds or better (wow, sub-16 OH = sub-10 2h, that's... actually pretty accurate).
 
qqwerf's seem pretty accurate. Because I can sub-16 all the time at home but at competition its a way different story. But also that means no one has gotten the equivalent average of 10 for OH and only 2 people are even sub-17.
 
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