[Disqualified WR] Jeff Park BLD 17.35 insanely BLD round

[Ordway Persyn]

I’ve decided this forum site is cancerous.

There’s literally no proof.

Just congratulate the wrs and let the officials do their jobs.

And people on other sites wouldn't behave the same way?

If you really think some of these posts are cancerous, then you must have never seen a youtube comment section.

However, people should always assume rumors are false, until proven true.

 

[mDiPalma]

if the regulations are violated, the solve should be 100% DNFd, period.

but we can't expect the wca to actually abide by their own regulations - they've set numerous precedents against that.

 

[YouCubing]

if the regulations are violated, the solve should be 100% DNFd, period.

but we can't expect the wca to actually abide by their own regulations - they've set numerous precedents against that.

still salty?

 

[Max Cruz]

This would not be retroactive punishment since the rule was already in place. Rules are put in place to be followed. To ensure a fair playing field and maintain the integrity of the competition, the solve should be a "Did Not Finish."

 

[AidanNoogie]

This would not be retroactive punishment since the rule was already in place. Rules are put in place to be followed. To ensure a fair playing field and maintain the integrity of the competition, the solve should be a "Did Not Finish."

Agreed.

 

[MiaSponseller]

what...
http://m.cubecomps.com/competitions/2669/events/16/rounds/3/results

Wow

 

[turtwig]

Well if this isn't going to be a WR, Max Hilliard just got a 17.87
http://cubecomps.com/live.php?cid=2670&cat=16&rnd=2

 

[MiaSponseller]

Well if this isn't going to be a WR, Max Hilliard just got a 17.87
http://cubecomps.com/live.php?cid=2670&cat=16&rnd=2

Dang

 

[guysensei1]

I’ve decided this forum site is cancerous.

There’s literally no proof.

Just congratulate the wrs and let the officials do their jobs.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Cubers/comments/7dxl5i/comment/dq142fn

 

[Sajwo]

They will probably accept it

https://www.facebook.com/WorldCubeAssociation/posts/1642368342451047

 

[Max Cruz]

They will probably accept it

https://www.facebook.com/WorldCubeAssociation/posts/1642368342451047

I cannot view that page. Would you be kind enough to post the information on the forum?

 

[DGraciaRubik]

I cannot view that page. Would you be kind enough to post the information on the forum?

The post has been deleted, it was the WR announcement. The fact that they deleted means it probably is still under investigation.

 

[AlphaSheep]

They will probably accept it

https://www.facebook.com/WorldCubeAssociation/posts/1642368342451047

Posts on Facebook is done by the communications team, whereas deciding on the outcomes of incidents is the job of the regulations committee. They're completely independent groups of people, so seeing something posted to Facebook is certainly no indication of how the what the ruling on an incident will be.

 

[Underwatercuber]

 

[oliviervlcube]

No reaction

 

[AlphaSheep]

I’ve decided this forum site is cancerous.

There’s literally no proof.

Just congratulate the wrs and let the officials do their jobs.

Between the communities that I read (this forum, reddit, facebook, and youtube), the comments on this forum are for the most part healthy and civil. I think debate like this is more of a good thing than a bad thing for several reasons but the two most important reasons are:

1. Bringing up the fact that overlay stickers are not permitted in connection with a high profile incident will make this regulation stick in people's heads. It's great that it's ordinary cubers quoting the relevant regulations to back up statements. If an overlay sticker somehow slips past the delegate and scramblers at a future comp, there's a much higher chance that someone will see it and bring it up. That way, it can ideally be dealt with before it gets to the competitor (best case). I'm sure you're fully aware that delegating is a really tough job, and there are millions of things to check at a competition. It's so easy for one tiny thing to slip through unnoticed, and when those helping out know the regulations well and can spot the small things, it makes a fantastic safety net to prevent problems like this. Incidents like this are what help people remember regulations.
2. It reminds the WRC that they are accountable to the entire cubing community. You're right that the general public does not necessarily have access to all of the facts, whereas the WRC does do their best to gather all of the facts and view things in the broader context. However, the WRC does still need to be able to convince the general cubing community that is applying the regulations fairly and equally. (I know that the current WRC does a great job of this, and I have a tonne of respect for them and the difficult work that they do)

 

[adimare]

A WR was already awarded to a kid who both knew the scramble he was going to get was solvable in 4 moves and had already seen the exact scramble he'd have to solve. I don't see how the same poeple who decided that was ok would decide not to award Jeff a WR. It'd be unfair to him.

 

[qwertycuber]

https://www.worldcubeassociation.or...garding-an-incident-at-longhorn-cube-day-2017

I guess this settles this debate

 

[cuberkid10]

A WR was already awarded to a kid who both knew the scramble he was going to get was solvable in 4 moves and had already seen the exact scramble he'd have to solve. I don't see how the same poeple who decided that was ok would decide not to award Jeff a WR. It'd be unfair to him.

Those are 2 completely different circumstances, with different regulations being broken.

 

[Dancing Jules]

A WR was already awarded to a kid who both knew the scramble he was going to get was solvable in 4 moves and had already seen the exact scramble he'd have to solve. I don't see how the same poeple who decided that was ok would decide not to award Jeff a WR. It'd be unfair to him.

Wasn't that the case where another person went up to the competitor to tell them about the scramble and the competitor tried to shake them off. So the competitor did their best to follow regulations - IIRC they even told the delegate about it. Why the delegate didn't replace it with an extra, I don't know.

Edit: it was Rami Sbahi: he did report it, he was granted an extra, the extra was a bad solve. The WCA decided to let the original 0.58 count because they did not want to rob him of that easy-scramble opportunity that everyone else at the comp also got, just because of some dumb kid (that he actively tried to push away). A side effect of that event was that different groups of the same round now use different scrambles.