[Disqualified WR] Jeff Park BLD 17.35 insanely BLD round

[Jaysammey777]

what...
http://m.cubecomps.com/competitions/2669/events/16/rounds/3/results

 

[bobthegiraffemonkey]

I assume it was a stupidly easy scramble based on several people getting crazy times.

 

[TipsterTrickster]

wow thats good, 2 18s and all sub 30, wow!

 

[newtonbase]

I assume it was a stupidly easy scramble based on several people getting crazy times.

10/6

 

[Jaysammey777]

So, WR for Max Hilliard.

Angelo Round 1

 

[guysensei1]

Did it get DNFed? I heard he had a logo.

 

[xyzzy]

Did it get DNFed? I heard he had a logo.

And the judges/scramblers didn't notice until after he got a WR-worthy solve? Man, this would really suck.

 

[newtonbase]

Let's hope that common sense prevails.

 

[Sajwo]

Let's hope that common sense prevails.

Common sense tells that he should be DNF'ed

 

[WACWCA]

Ishaan 17.04 DNF by wrong com for last 3c

 

[Ordway Persyn]

Aren't logos legal if they aren't at all distinguished by touch. (e.g. It's printed on the plastic)

E: fixed grammar (I can't english in the morning)

 

[turtwig]

Aren't logos only illegal if they aren't at all distinguished by touch. (e.g. It's printed on the plastic)

3l2) The logo must not be distinguishable by feel for blindfolded events (i.e. no embossings, engravings, or overlay stickers).

The idea is that one can't tell the orientation of the cube by feeling it.

 

[mitja]

Take transparent stickers and put them on the center caps. Problem solved

 

[turtwig]

Take transparent stickers and put them on the center caps. Problem solved

3j) Puzzles must be clean, and must not have any markings, elevated pieces, damage, or other differences that significantly distinguish any piece from a similar piece. Exception: a logo

 

[obelisk477]

My thoughts, for whatever its worth:

1) If your cube makes it past the judges and scramblers, you should be able to use it, and you shouldn't be able to be retroactively DNFed for it. Also, no one would be calling for a DNF if it wasn't a record.

2) Someone who is capable of getting WR should know better than to use a logo on their cube for 3BLD

 

[turtwig]

My thoughts, for whatever its worth:

1) If your cube makes it past the judges and scramblers, you should be able to use it, and you shouldn't be able to be retroactively DNFed for it. Also, no one would be calling for a DNF if it wasn't a record.

2) Someone who is capable of getting WR should know better than to use a logo on their cube for 3BLD

The record was on his last solve of the day, so presumably it also got past the scramblers on every other solve, and probably also in other competitions (and maybe his previous NAR).

I'm should sure where I stand on this. On the one hand, I think that if we're consistent with the regulations, the solve should be DNF'd, on the other hand, I remember hearing that Kabyanil Talukdar's WR had some problems, but due to the fact that it was not the competitors fault and that it didn't give him an advantage, they still counted it. A similar argument could be made here (though it is a bit weaker since he should've known about the logo rule).

 

[Ollie]

If the logo was distinguishable, but the solution was rotationless, allow it.

If the logo wasn't distinguishable, then allow it.

Else, DNF.

Edit: rotationless point was nonsense, soz

 

[Underwatercuber]

My thoughts, for whatever its worth:

1) If your cube makes it past the judges and scramblers, you should be able to use it, and you shouldn't be able to be retroactively DNFed for it. Also, no one would be calling for a DNF if it wasn't a record.

2) Someone who is capable of getting WR should know better than to use a logo on their cube for 3BLD

1) just because your illegal cube makes it past judges and scramblers doesn’t mean you should get rewarded for it. If I brought a cube that was self solving and it made it past the judges and scamblers doesn’t mean my splcrs should count. They would dnfd it anyway once they noticed it regardless if was a record.

2) that’s the part that would make me personally dnf him even though I know he isn’t doing this to cheat. If this was like some 12 year old kids first comp doing bld and he averages 12 minutes I might let it slide but he knows the regs and should abide by them.

I remember hearing thatKabyanil Talukdar's WR had some problems,but due to the fact that it was not thecompetitors fault and that it didn't give him an advantage, they still counted it. A similarargument could be made here (though it is abit weaker since he should've known about the logo rule).

Not sure what the story is for that but personally I don’t see this as a “it wasn’t the competitors thought thing. Yeah he might have accidentally grabbed a cube with a logo but it’s 100% his fault for grabbing the cube. You can’t shift blame to the judges and scrambles just because they didn’t catch it. If someone cheats a WR (like that one delegate with clock) they aren’t going to let it slide “because none of the scramblers or judges caught it”. They would dnf him which I assume they will do with Jeff

 

[Jaysammey777]

I’ve decided this forum site is cancerous.

There’s literally no proof.

Just congratulate the wrs and let the officials do their jobs.

 

[Underwatercuber]

I’ve decided this forum site is cancerous.

There’s literally no proof.

Just congratulate the wrs and let the officials do their jobs.

But it is fun to debate and pretend our opinions actually matter just like taking politics