I call BS.

[qqwref]

I'm not looking for 100% certainty, I just want something to show you're real so i can believe you. You could just record more than one solve in a row or something (so it's not a replay), or one solve with hands; something basic will do. Basically I just want confirmation that you're an actual person capable of actually getting fast times.

 

[Robert-Y]

Ok, Michael, that's not really problem. Well, maybe the videoing part. I can film solves of myself solving but you can barely see the cube. I don't have a tripod or anything, just my sister's video camera.

 

[fanwuq]

A youtube video of you solving would be really cool to watch. I'm quite certain that Robert really is that good at cubing. Why would anyone go on hi-games.net often, talk to cubers a lot and cheat for his results? It just doesn't make any sense.
He's also very nice willing to discuss his methods and help other cubers. No cheater would do that.
Hi-games only keep your PB solves, so most people's PBs are a bit lucky anyway. And he spends a lot of time on it, so it makes sense that he would not only encounter many more easy solves, but also get very fast at it too.
Of course it is a shock that anyone could beat Michael Gottlieb at a computer cube by so much, but it is possible since Robert has been at the top of the list also.

Edit:
you can probably first tape that you are a real person, set the camera down to see only your hands, then back up after you solve.

 

[blah]

I'm not looking for 100% certainty, I just want something to show you're real so i can believe you. You could just record more than one solve in a row or something (so it's not a replay), or one solve with hands; something basic will do. Basically I just want confirmation that you're an actual person capable of actually getting fast times.

Seems like a good idea. You can hack a computer solve, you can set up a physical 3x3x3 solve (think yish), but I think multiple physical 5x5x5 solves aren't really set up-able, unless you're really as desperate as yish, if not more I think the some of us would be convinced if you can just sub-2 (assuming you have a really crappy 5x5x5), I know I would

 

[Escher]

what about buying this?

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/140184

i got it a couple of days ago and its awesome
if you can spare like a tenner its definitely worth getting a webcam...

 

[Robert-Y]

@ Blah: Are you saying that you want proof that my 5x5x5 times in real life are good? If so, well there're not, read my "about myself" thread. Not to boast but, I beat Michael's 5x5x5 times, before I started practising on the 5x5x5 again.

Good computer times doesn't necessarily mean good real life times, as many of you already know.

 

[blah]

@ Blah: Are you saying that you want proof that my 5x5x5 times in real life are good? If so, well there're not, read my "about myself" thread. Not to boast but, I beat Michael's 5x5x5 times, before I started practising on the 5x5x5 again.

Good computer times doesn't necessarily mean good real life times, as many of you already know.

Sorry if I was unclear. I don't want or need any proof from you. Like I said, it really doesn't bother me whether you're real or not, but you've posted enough to prove that you're a real human being, so I have no doubts about that (unless you're some sick computer program that controls the world and has superhuman AI like that freak computer in Eagle Eye ). And if you're a real human being and you have a conscience and you're not as retarded as yish, which I believe few if not none in the world are, then I have absolutely no reason to doubt your skills at all. You're innocent until proven guilty. I just said it would be a good idea for you to do a physical 5x5x5 solve to convince a lot of people here, I didn't request anything

 

[Dene]

Hey Robert,

What are your cube 5x5x5 times like? I assume that you would be pretty quick with that too.

 

[fanwuq]

Hey Robert,

What are your cube 5x5x5 times like? I assume that you would be pretty quick with that too.

http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showpost.php?p=126095&postcount=5

 

[Dene]

Ah thanks fanwuq. That's what I get for not checking that subforum

 

[EmersonHerrmann]

Like I said, it really doesn't bother me whether you're real or not, but you've posted enough to prove that you're a real human being, so I have no doubts about that (unless you're some sick computer program that controls the world and has superhuman AI like that freak computer in Eagle Eye ).

Hahahahahaha that made me laugh so hard xD

Robert: You could make a video of you doing a computer solve...like, show the keyboard and stuff that could prove that you are "real"-ly good at computer 5x5

 

[FU]

i don't hate michael gottlieb or what but i'd like to see him swallow his words and apologize once (and if) robert yau 'proves' himself

 

[brunson]

I can't believe Robert is going to waste his time. In my country it is not the responsibility of the accused to prove his innocence, it is the responsibility of the prosecution to prove his guilt.

 

[Mike Hughey]

I don't want to see the video in order to prove Robert is telling the truth. I just want to see the video because it would be a really, really cool video!!!

(Especially the video showing him at the keyboard solving a computer cube.)

 

[brunson]

I would be up for that, too.

 

[(X)]

I don't want to see the video in order to prove Robert is telling the truth. I just want to see the video because it would be a really, really cool video!!!

(Especially the video showing him at the keyboard solving a computer cube.)

yes im really looking forward to see that video

 

[Robert-Y]

Umm not to disappoint but, I've made the video, but IMO it's not that good , but who knows, you might like it. I'm gonna upload the video soon (The solving time was 1:08 which is around my avg).

Let me point out something out: Dan Cohen went from 1:12 to 1:05 in less than a day, also I think Michael went from 1:04 to 59 on the computer, so me going from 1:00 to 55 isn't that amazing lol

 

[qqwref]

I can't believe Robert is going to waste his time. In my country it is not the responsibility of the accused to prove his innocence, it is the responsibility of the prosecution to prove his guilt.

This isn't a "prosecution", and this isn't your country or its legal system either (it's the Internet). I just don't believe the time. If Robert doesn't want to make any kind of proof, absolutely nothing will happen to him - the only effect is that I won't ever believe his time. You and Erik can complain as much as you want about the fact that I don't automatically believe everything, but no amount of complaining will make me more likely to believe it. A video will.

Besides, in many other communities which track high scores in games (see: cyberscore.net, groovestats, the Stepmania community), asking for proof is standard. Robert is the only one out of the top 8 5x5 solvers who hasn't been in a competition, so I think it's entirely reasonable to request some kind of verification to make sure he's real. If you think it's unreasonable, you must be living in some kind of happy world of unicorns and princesses where every score is legitimate and nobody ever cheats or lies.

 

[qqwref]

No, Michael, I just think you're a tool. Please provide video confirmation otherwise or else I'll just have to continue with my belief.

Actually, brunson, I think you're a tool as well. Please provide video confirmation otherwise or else I'll just have to continue with my belief.

EDIT: brunson removed his post. But I'm not going to.

 

[Robert-Y]

hmm? I'm a bit confused by you, Michael. I thought you were thinking that maybe I'm cheating, but you're hoping I'm not. Now I think you really think I'm just a cheater.