Magnets Discussion and Help thread

I think that should be ok. My only concern is that your outer layer magnets are quite weak relative to the inner layer ones. According to the calculator on the KJ magnetics site the 4x1.5 should generate roughly 0.14 lbs of pull force per edge (0.56 lbs per slice turn). I like that on mine, but I think it is on the high side of what is optimal. Mine is set up with the 4x2 n38s, which according to that calculator would be 0.1 lbs per edge, or 0.40 lbs per outer layer turn. It is clearly lighter on the outer layer turns, but I think it's a good balance. Your 5x1 n48s for the outer layer would have a pull force of 0.07 lbs per corner, or 0.28 lbs per outer layer turn. I suspect that is too much of a discrepancy from the 0.56 lbs on the inner layer.

Also, I'm afraid I don't have any calipers handy, so my numbers are based on the estimation of 2mm of plastic between magnets. That's pretty close, but it might be just high.
Alright, thanks for all your input. I've finally decided on a more middle of the road 4x1 mm N52 magnet for the edges and 5x1 mm N48 magnets for the outer layers. Before asking this forum about magnetizing my Blue, I was planning on using 4x1 mm N38 magnets all throughout. That probably would not have ended so well.
 
Oh, ABSOLUTELY!!!! It's the best cube to learn magmodding on, and the end result is a great performing cube!!!

Sorry I didn't see your message until now. Never received notification and just came across it. Sorry about that.
It's fine. Thank you!

Also, what would be a good cube to magnetize that is top-notch performance? I want to know since the MF3RS iss a budget cube (but still good), and I want something that might make me switch from my GTS2 M? Any suggestions? Thanks.
 
It's fine. Thank you!

Also, what would be a good cube to magnetize that is top-notch performance? I want to know since the MF3RS iss a budget cube (but still good), and I want something that might make me switch from my GTS2 M? Any suggestions? Thanks.
Hmmm The GTS2 M is top notch, particularly a homemade one with N48 5x1 magnets!!!! Or the Valk. Its great too!!! But the N48 5x1 GTS2 I think, is my favorite cube of all!!!
 
DMCubing thanks for your wonderful videos, that's how I got into magnetizing cubes and have done quite a few at this point.

Anyone try magnetizing a Sail or Big Sail? That's my next project.
 
One wheel thanks for the reply - those magnets sound quite strong, any thoughts on the magnetic strength? I like N35 4x2 and thereabouts in most cubes (GTS2, YAN3 etc)
 
One wheel thanks for the reply - those magnets sound quite strong, any thoughts on the magnetic strength? I like N35 4x2 and thereabouts in most cubes (GTS2, YAN3 etc)

Those are quite strong magnets. It's not great for solving with hands, I did make it specifically as a foot cube. I've never personally handled a GTS2 or YAN3. It's a very easy cube to put magnets in. Cubes I have magnetized:
Big sail 5x2 n52 - good foot cube
Yulong 4x2 n35 - subtle magnetic feel, nice stable cube.
Aoshi 4x2 n35 and 3x2 n50 (advertised: I think the grade actually varied a lot) - too weak on the inner layer with the 3x2, otherwise good not great
Weichuang 4x2 n35 - good, not great. A little mushy.
Yuxin blue 4x2 n38 and 4x1.5 n38 - fantastic, but strong magnets. Not at all subtle.
 
Thanks One Wheel! Great notes. I'm going to start with N35 4x2 from gaussboys I think (will double check when I have the cube and can see the thickness), if its too weak I'll bump up to N38.
 
I just finished my partially-magnetized YJ YuFu, with 4x2 N38s from Gaussboys. I just magnetized the edges, because I couldn't figure out how to fit the magnets in the corner pieces. I don't know. I think it might be better than it was to start with, but to be honest I was hoping for a stronger magnetic feel. I'm still getting some catching and popping on the inner layers, and layers don't stay aligned the way I was hoping. My initial review of my Aoshi was similarly nonplussed, and as that has broken in I've gotten pretty happy with it, so this might turn out fantastic, but initial impressions are meh. I would happily trade it for an un-modded Yuxin Red or QiYi Wuji so I can take a second crack at a magnetized 6 or 7.

E: have you ever had a cube that felt terrible to scramble, but when you start solving it everything works together and it's fine? This is the opposite. It feels great scrambling, not so good when you start to solve it.
 
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Hello!!!!!!

How did this magnetic trend start?!!!!

And do the magnets really help?!!!

...or...or...or....

IS IT A PLACEBO?!!!!

thx
There's nothing placebo about the fact that magnets, if properly balanced between their pullforce strength, the cube's tension, the cube's design, and the lubricant used within the cube, can have a positive effect on keeping the cube aligned (reduced catching/less overshooting) and provide a tactile response while solving. But anything can have some sort of placebo effect if you believe in it strong enough. With magnets, the change is real. Whether or not these cubes work for everyone, is another thing. Even within the various magnetic strengths available to cubers, it comes down to personal preference.
 
There's nothing placebo about the fact that magnets, if properly balanced between their pullforce strength, the cube's tension, the cube's design, and the lubricant used within the cube, can have a positive effect on keeping the cube aligned (reduced catching/less overshooting) and provide a tactile response while solving. But anything can have some sort of placebo effect if you believe in it strong enough. With magnets, the change is real. Whether or not these cubes work for everyone, is another thing. Even within the various magnetic strengths available to cubers, it comes down to personal preference.

Ok but how is it WCA legal?!!!

Where do we draw the line with technology?!!
 
Ok but how is it WCA legal?!!!

Where do we draw the line with technology?!!
I don't make the rules, I just modify cubes. People have been modding cubes since 1980, sanding feet and torpedoes, thinning cubie piece walls, adjusting spring tension, etc. Magnets are just an internal modification. They're not strong enough to cause any piece to move by itself, and to some degree, they can actually slow the face of a cube down as it comes into its resting position. This can be done without the aid of magnets when intentional cubie piece drag is built into the design, like how it is with the Thunderclap V2.
 
Hi guys how would I know if the polarity of the magnets are correct? I just watched some guides today , and I'm just anxious about this part...

btw I'm gonna magnetize Valk with N42 magnets sooner or later...
(total newbie to magcubing world.)
 
Hi guys how would I know if the polarity of the magnets are correct? I just watched some guides today , and I'm just anxious about this part...

btw I'm gonna magnetize Valk with N42 magnets sooner or later...
(total newbie to magcubing world.)

Uhhh.... check to see which sides stick together. Those have opposite polarity
 
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