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[megagoune]

It's my birthday today... my family know me so well!

Very nice. Happy birthday!

But how do you get your family to buy you puzzles that you don't have? Do you give them a wish list or something? My family just gave up on offering cubes because they cannot track what I have

 

[pipkiksass]

Had a second small internal pop on the Yuxin 4x4 today, again whilst scrambling. Never had a pop while solving, fortunately.

Also discovered you can pull pairs of edges apart to check which internal has popped, and just dismantle 2 corners to fix, saved me an age!!! [emoji41]

Also had a few 1:4x solves, even with parity. It's nice going back to an event where you can still have these massive jumps of progress.

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[bubbagrub]

Very nice. Happy birthday!

But how do you get your family to buy you puzzles that you don't have? Do you give them a wish list or something? My family just gave up on offering cubes because they cannot track what I have

I created a wish list on Marty's cube store, and shared it with my wife... She kindly shared it with others.

 

[pipkiksass]

I created a wish list on Marty's cube store, and shared it with my wife... She kindly shared it with others.

Will DEFINITELY be doing this in future. Loving Marty's store as well, excellent service. About to place my 3rd order...

Just done my second entry in the race to sub XX on 4x4. 6 days ago I had a 2:47 Ao12 with my Weisu. Today I had a 2:03 Ao12 with my Yuxin. I know some of this is down to personal improvement, but I can't see past the cube being the largest influence. It's taken almost 10 seconds off my 3x3 stage.

New PBs:

single - 1:41.42
Ao5 - 1:54.81
A012 - 2:03.25

That's after a week of 4x4ing. Have to say I LOVE it. And 3x3 seems so easy when you go back to it after 4x4, which is an added bonus.

Spoiler: times

Generated By csTimer on 2016-11-16
solves/total: 12/12

single
best: 1:41.42
worst: 2:24.12

mean of 3
current: 2:07.13 (σ = 11.11)
best: 1:55.93 (σ = 18.32)

avg of 5
current: 2:06.34 (σ = 9.84)
best: 1:54.81 (σ = 8.83)

avg of 12
current: 2:03.25 (σ = 13.26)
best: 2:03.25 (σ = 13.26)

Average: 2:03.25 (σ = 13.26)
Mean: 2:03.17

Time List:
1. 2:02.73 Fw' B' D2 L' D' F B U2 Uw' Fw F' B U2 F' U' L2 Fw L F2 Uw B2 F2 D L' U' R2 Rw2 B R' D' Fw R' U L Fw2 L Fw L' Uw2 U'
2. 2:09.36 Uw' F R D R' Fw L Rw U L Uw2 U2 Rw2 Uw' L U' Rw' Fw2 D Fw D' R' B Fw' Rw U R' U L2 U D2 R Uw B Fw Uw' L Uw' B Rw'
3. 2:19.92 R B Uw2 D2 U' Rw F2 B' Fw2 D' Uw' U2 L B2 Rw U2 D' F2 Uw' U R' U F R F' B' Fw2 L' Rw' Fw' F R2 Uw F Uw R' Uw' U F' B'
4. 1:41.42 F' B U Rw' D' L' Rw Uw U2 R2 F2 Rw F' Uw2 R U Fw B' F Uw2 Fw' Rw2 F' L' Rw2 D2 Rw F L B2 Rw Fw2 D R2 D2 L' B2 R2 Fw2 F'
5. 2:24.12 R' Rw Fw Uw2 F' L' Uw B' U2 D Uw R' Rw2 D B' Uw F2 R2 Rw2 Fw' Rw2 B' R L' Rw D2 F' R' D' R D2 Rw' L2 Fw' L D' Rw2 L' U' Uw'
6. 1:48.22 L Fw' D L2 F2 B' Uw' F2 U2 F2 B' Rw U' R' Uw' B L' F' R Fw' U2 L' F' D2 R Rw' U2 F' Rw' Uw' Fw2 D' Fw2 R Fw2 Uw Fw2 R2 L Fw
7. 1:42.70 U R' U2 R Fw2 L' B2 L D2 U B' U' Fw' Rw Uw D Rw' Uw' R2 Uw2 U' F Uw' D Fw' D' U Rw2 B D U' B' Fw D' B2 Rw2 B D Fw2 Rw'
8. 2:16.84 Uw' Rw' Uw Fw L B2 Fw2 U D' Fw L' R' Rw' U' Rw2 L' D B2 Fw' F R' D' Fw' Rw2 B' F2 R L' Uw2 B2 D2 L' U' Fw2 L D Rw' Uw Fw2 F
9. 1:51.36 D R2 Uw2 R' Fw U' F U R D' Uw2 R Fw2 Rw L2 Uw2 F' Rw D2 U' B F' Fw' Rw2 L2 U2 D2 Fw' Uw' D L F2 B' U' Uw B2 Uw2 L D2 U'
10. 2:04.84 F Fw2 B D' F2 R' D U Uw2 R Fw D2 L R U2 D' Fw' F' B D Fw' B2 F' U' L' B Fw2 L2 U L2 Rw Fw' F L' Fw B L' Rw' D F
11. 2:19.20 U D2 F' R2 B2 Fw F' Uw2 Fw' R2 Uw Rw D' F R Rw2 B Uw' F' Fw Uw2 F Uw' D' R' L D' B' R Uw' B Rw' F Rw2 Fw F' Uw' Rw Uw2 R2
12. 1:57.33 B' R L U2 R2 U2 D' Uw B F' D' U Rw R2 Uw' Fw' F L' Rw Fw2 Uw Rw U2 Rw Uw U2 F Fw Rw U2 L' D' Fw F' U2 Rw' D2 R' U F'

 

[pglewis]

*cough* CFOP substep comp *cough*

Thanks for the invite and I'm sure to take you up on it eventually. Right now I'm still only really timing 3x3 solves once or twice a week and only a couple dozen timed solves as a check-in at that. My F2L bootcamp would be progressing a little faster if not for the 4x4 and 5x5 diversions but I'm having fun, which meets the primary objective. My general "cube sense" has improved tremendously over the past month and a half, even if my times haven't yet, and that's definitely one of my biggest weaknesses.

Also had a few 1:4x solves, even with parity. It's nice going back to an event where you can still have these massive jumps of progress.

Fantastic progress ::bowing down emoji::

It was fun while it lasted here. I rocketed down to around about 4x my 3x3 times and stalled (surprise, surprise). 5x5 is getting close to double my 4x4, so probably nearly maxed there for a little while as well.

You're already flirting with making cutoffs at this rate.

 

[earth2dan]

It's my birthday today... my family know me so well!

Happy Birthday!

Had a second small internal pop on the Yuxin 4x4 today

I found the only way to avoid the pops was to lube it well and tighten it one step before "too tight". It was awesome for a time, but I'm due to re-lube it now as it's slowing down on me.


Thanks for the cube tips folks. I ended up ordering the Gans Air and the Valk3, both 5x5's, and the Galaxy Megaminx. Now... I wait.

 

[Jason Green]

The best confirmation of specific tricks being any good is when they are used in the Friday Fours by Faz. Several of my favorite algs have turned up which is a good sign!

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Yes, there are several guys doing walk through solves now like Jayden McNeil and I think they are great for seeing tips.

11.801 3x3 PB Single, I'll try to reconstruct, I hope it's not a miss scramble.

32160 15-nov-2016 9:52:07 00:11.801 D B2 L2 U2 L2 D' L2 B2 D' F2 R2 F L' D' F U' B2 L B2 U2 L

edit: Very easy solve, no pauses, but not very efficient at several points, 59 STM, so 5.00 tps

Passed me again! Was I ahead before this? I'm at 12.26 right now.

Also, avoiding double post, thought something horrible had happened last night, did a 20.5 Ao100! [emoji15] Felt REALLY tired, but it was just super hard work. Started out as an Ao12, but kept hoping it would speed up.

Turned out to just be tiredness, I've had several sup 19 Ao12s this morning. Thought I'd regressed by 1.5 seconds, which was moderately terrifying!!!

Yeah I've learned if I'm too tired don't worry about the average. In fact I'm too tired tonight but may still practice a bit, if it's over 20 I'll delete the whole session and act like it never happened. [emoji14]

Edit: And happy birthday Ben!!

 

[defhacks]

Yes, there are several guys doing walk through solves now like Jayden McNeil and I think they are great for seeing tips.!

Jayden's WTRS series is definitely one of my favourites as well!

Chris Olson also did a walkthrough video in that style, which contained one of my favourite terms, "panic cross". Given some of his comments, he may have been the source for Jayden's idea

Has anyone else started doing walkthroughs in that same style ? Friday Fours is similar in that it's a real solve, but I do like the aspect that a random ao5 brings to the table.

 

[muchacho]

Passed me again! Was I ahead before this? I'm at 12.26 right now.

It was 12.166, apparently my Ao5 is also ahead for now... but I don't use a stackmat and start with the cube in my hands... and for 100 solves my mean is usually more than 21 seconds.

 

[pipkiksass]

I found the only way to avoid the pops was to lube it well and tighten it one step before "too tight".

I'm pretty sure I have it tight enough, more by luck than judgement. I tensioned it the way I used to tension a Dayan 3x3, leaving about 1.5mm when pulling the spring taught, or the width of a narrow coin. It's only popped twice, and both times when scrambling.

I think it's just because I'm not very good at scrambling big cubes (not that 4x4 is particularly big!), and I'm worried about losing my place when scrambling. It's not popped yet (touch wood) during a solve. As inaccurate as my turning is, I think my scrambling must be worse!

 

[JohnnyReggae]

Out of nowhere yesterday I managed a 4x4 PB

1:15.90 Rw2 U' R2 Fw' B2 U2 R2 Uw R' D2 B Uw2 R' Uw Rw2 L2 B' Rw2 F' Uw2 Fw B F' Uw D2 F2 L2 D' L Rw B D L2 F R Fw' Uw2 R2 D Uw2

Did only 2 solves yesterday, the first was interrupted by the wife wanting to know something. I was quite happy to stop it as it was a shocker I was at the 1:27 mark already and only on F2L of 3x3 stage. Then very next solve ... new PB unfortunately I couldn't continue as I needed to get the kids out of the bath and into bedtime routine, and then I ended up drinking to much really good red wine to continue any cubing for the rest of the evening

 

[Jason Green]

Here's a guy that does 9 second walk throughs, they are pretty good.

 

[CLL Smooth]

Yes, there are several guys doing walk through solves now like Jayden McNeil and I think they are great for seeing tips.

It's funny that this is the topic now. I just thought-up a new series last night: Stuff I would totally do for real in real solves walkthroughs.

 

[mafergut]

Hi guys, so much to catch up to. I'm still here but unable to practise or post anything coherent here. Just a bit less than two weeks for liberation Happy birthday, Ben. Congrats David, I only have now an 11.50 as faster single than your PB. Before the end of the year you'll beat me for sure. My only practise this week was like 40min of 5x5 during a 1h train commute yesterday.

 

[earth2dan]

Anyone here know full OLL? I know less than half and I two look most cases. Looking for some tips on how to learn the rest efficiently. If I can stay focused, and avoid distraction or falling into bad habits I can consistently squeak out a sub-20 average, but globally I'm still around 20.3. I know I get a lot of sup-20 solves where my bad OLL is pushing me over 20.

Do you recommend learning them in groups of similar cases, or just powering through drilling one at a time until it's down? I usually go to http://algdb.net/ for algs.

The Winter months are when I seem to make all my speedcubing progress, then I just kind of coast through Summer. I've set some Winter goals for myself and I'm sure I can hit my big cube goals with just practice and improving look-ahead, but I think I'm due to learn some new algs to improve 3x3.

 

[mark49152]

Anyone here know full OLL? I know less than half and I two look most cases. Looking for some tips on how to learn the rest efficiently.

Yep, my approach was to learn them in U-sticker groups, in order of move count benefit. See this link...

https://www.speedsolving.com/forum/threads/when-and-how-to-move-from-2-look-to-1-look-oll.41380/

 

[pipkiksass]

Anyone here know full OLL? I know less than half and I two look most cases. Looking for some tips on how to learn the rest efficiently. If I can stay focused, and avoid distraction or falling into bad habits I can consistently squeak out a sub-20 average, but globally I'm still around 20.3. I know I get a lot of sup-20 solves where my bad OLL is pushing me over 20.

Do you recommend learning them in groups of similar cases, or just powering through drilling one at a time until it's down? I usually go to http://algdb.net/ for algs.

The Winter months are when I seem to make all my speedcubing progress, then I just kind of coast through Summer. I've set some Winter goals for myself and I'm sure I can hit my big cube goals with just practice and improving look-ahead, but I think I'm due to learn some new algs to improve 3x3.

I don't know full OLL, and average pretty much the same as you, maybe a tiny bit faster.

Much as I'd love to learn according to Mark's consistent and sensible regime, I do find it easier to learn by shape. This week will be knight moves, if I can put down my 4x4 long enough (now averaging sub 2 after barely a week). I just find it easier to integrate new OLLs into a speed solve if I know I know the whole group by shape. Even if recog fails me for a second, the fact that it's there somewhere means it's a 21-22 rather than anything totally catastrophic!!!


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[earth2dan]

Yep, my approach was to learn them in U-sticker groups, in order of move count benefit. See this link...

https://www.speedsolving.com/forum/threads/when-and-how-to-move-from-2-look-to-1-look-oll.41380/

Wow. That's a great, and thorough guide. Thanks for the link!

I don't know full OLL, and average pretty much the same as you, maybe a tiny bit faster.

Much as I'd love to learn according to Mark's consistent and sensible regime, I do find it easier to learn by shape. This week will be knight moves, if I can put down my 4x4 long enough (now averaging sub 2 after barely a week). I just find it easier to integrate new OLLs into a speed solve if I know I know the whole group by shape. Even if recog fails me for a second, the fact that it's there somewhere means it's a 21-22 rather than anything totally catastrophic!!!

I learned the Knight moves and the W's (or M's ...?) in groups with this exact same philosophy. They were also all simple algs that mirror easily lefty/righty. So it was really just learning 3 algs to cover 6 cases with easy recognition

I think I need a more structured approach to learn the rest though. My biggest challenge is I need to put that dang timer away and switch my brain back into learning mode. I haven't really learned anything new in a long time, I've just been improving very slowly via practice.

 

[mark49152]

Much as I'd love to learn according to Mark's consistent and sensible regime, I do find it easier to learn by shape.

My guide does group them by shape, and orders the shape groups by move savings. That's what I meant by "U-sticker group". The word shape eluded me for some reason

Edit: Look at the table at the bottom left of the first linked PDF. You'll see that knight moves are mid-table with an average saving of 5.56 moves compared to 2-look, based on the algs listed.

Having looked at that post and docs again, it does look overcomplicated. I had stared at details for a long time. Maybe it could use a clean-up to make it more user-friendly!

 

[mafergut]

I think I need a more structured approach to learn the rest though. My biggest challenge is I need to put that dang timer away and switch my brain back into learning mode. I haven't really learned anything new in a long time, I've just been improving very slowly via practice.

Exact same problem here with the timer and not learning anything in a long time

I happened to learn full OLL when I still was much slower and that, I'm afraid, led to learning some bad algs. 3 or 4 I have changed but the rest are still there, including some lefty mirrors that I'm sure are slower than righty alternatives but they seemed so easy to learn at the time... mistake!!! Now I can't easily get rid of them. Those 4-5 moves on average you will be saving will grant you 1 second at least. Not sure how many of your solves are now 1 look vs 2 look OLL but maybe your average can improve by more than half a second just by finishing full OLL. Worth it.