Older cubers discussions

[earth2dan]

We had a V-Perm discussion over in the Race to sub-20 thread a couple months back too. The alg I use is similar to the standard one, but a little longer and executed differently. It looks bad on paper, but it flows nicely for me. So far I don't know anyone else that uses this alg, I don't even remember where I learned it...

Here's the alg, and a video I made on how I execute it:
R' U R' U' x z' x R' U R' U' R2 x' U' R' U R U

Spoiler: V-Perm Video

 

[Logiqx]

I've started doing some OH again recently.

I'm averaging a little under 32s but I get the occasional single close to 20s.

 

[mafergut]

I've started doing some OH again recently.

I'm averaging a little under 32s but I get the occasional single close to 20s.

What did just happen there!!!????!!! You're the OH King in this oldies forum, for sure!
Did you influence that OLL skip or was it just chance? I have good solves where I can finish F2L around the 18 second mark but I have never been able to combine that with any OLL or PLL skips nor even with a simple combo like T-case + A-perm so my PB single is still a high 29s (only sub-30 ever).
Great job!!!

 

[MarcelP]

We had a V-Perm discussion over in the Race to sub-20 thread a couple months back too. The alg I use is similar to the standard one, but a little longer and executed differently. It looks bad on paper, but it flows nicely for me. So far I don't know anyone else that uses this alg, I don't even remember where I learned it...

Here's the alg, and a video I made on how I execute it:
R' U R' U' x z' x R' U R' U' R2 x' U' R' U R U

Spoiler: V-Perm Video

Dude... That looks very efficient.. I must learn that!

 

[Logiqx]

What did just happen there!!!????!!! You're the OH King in this oldies forum, for sure!
Did you influence that OLL skip or was it just chance? I have good solves where I can finish F2L around the 18 second mark but I have never been able to combine that with any OLL or PLL skips nor even with a simple combo like T-case + A-perm so my PB single is still a high 29s (only sub-30 ever).
Great job!!!

The OLL skip was just luck. I solved the final F2L pair with U' R2 U2' R U R' U R2.

 

[Jason Green]

@MarcelP I prefer your videos to be public so I don't miss them when I catch up on YouTube. That's something I started doing a few months ago, I have quite a few cube subs so I usually have some to watch each day. But that's just one opinion.

 

[MarcelP]

My Y perm is my slowest PLL. Who has a great and efficient execution on that?

 

[moralsh]

What did just happen there!!!????!!! You're the OH King in this oldies forum, for sure!
Did you influence that OLL skip or was it just chance? I have good solves where I can finish F2L around the 18 second mark but I have never been able to combine that with any OLL or PLL skips nor even with a simple combo like T-case + A-perm so my PB single is still a high 29s (only sub-30 ever).
Great job!!!

Better official single and average here thanks to Michael not going to comps lately [emoji13] I'm not far off, though, I'd say I'm around 34-35.

@h2f finally 4x4 average, and a nice one!

 

[Logiqx]

My Y perm is my slowest PLL. Who has a great and efficient execution on that?

I'm pretty happy with my Y-perm. I need to go out now but I will time it when I get home later.

 

[mafergut]

Better official single and average here thanks to Michael not going to comps lately [emoji13] I'm not far off, though, I'd say I'm around 34-35.

@h2f finally 4x4 average, and a nice one!

Sorry, I didn't realize that. So, you are the king of OH, then. Anyway both of you are so much faster than I am... well, not only at OH, to be honest

 

[CLL Smooth]

I've started doing some OH again recently.

I'm averaging a little under 32s but I get the occasional single close to 20s.

Nice solve. You'll be sub-30 soon with some dedicated practice.

My Y perm is my slowest PLL. Who has a great and efficient execution on that?

This is the Y-perm I use for 2H. It flows better for me than the standard.

 

[earth2dan]

This is the Y-perm I use for 2H. It flows better for me than the standard.

This... is my new Y-Perm. Thanks for sharing

 

[Logiqx]

My Y perm is my slowest PLL. Who has a great and efficient execution on that?

Here's a 1.50 mean of 3 (1.48, 1.52, 1.50) with finger tricks.

I'm not warmed up so maybe a tenth or more slower than my best.

 

[h2f]

We had a V-Perm discussion over in the Race to sub-20 thread a couple months back too. The alg I use is similar to the standard one, but a little longer and executed differently. It looks bad on paper, but it flows nicely for me. So far I don't know anyone else that uses this alg, I don't even remember where I learned it...

Here's the alg, and a video I made on how I execute it:
R' U R' U' x z' x R' U R' U' R2 x' U' R' U R U

Spoiler: V-Perm Video

Thats nice Vperm. I think your execution goes like: R' U R' U' y x l' U R' U' R2 x' U' R' U R z R x' alg.cubing.net. I'm not sure if it's like you do this but I keep this way to understand your fingertricks. Very nice Vperm. Beginning is like Vperm I use, middle is the other way and the finish the same. I cant figure it out properly but it works...

Edit: I rolled my ao5 with CFOP by 0.01 to 17.25.

 

[Selkie]

I feel so slow whenever you post one of these averages

Its achievable my anyone in this thread in their 40's to be honest Miguel, looking at you others solve my hands are no faster and it seems from recent posts my PLLs are slower than a lot. I guess its just being sub 20 for over 5 years mate

I've started doing some OH again recently.

I'm averaging a little under 32s but I get the occasional single close to 20s.

Wow, that is awesome. I got down to sub 45 (in comp and at home) but have not practiced and cannot OH for the life of me now. Even tried at exeter comp and didnt make the 1m cut. Great stuff

Here's a 1.50 mean of 3 (1.48, 1.52, 1.50) with finger tricks.

I'm not warmed up so maybe a tenth or more slower than my best.

Admittedly I have not drilled my PLLs for a long time. It is something I should really do to squeeze the next second of improvement to official sub 15 but I remember a while ago I did drill and time all my PLLs, which were all below 2 seconds. My Y perm was the slowest at 1.9x. You are 25% faster than that and so fluid at that speed. This is great motivation for me to do some concentrated PLL work

 

[Selkie]

This is the Y-perm I use for 2H. It flows better for me than the standard.

I like this one. Will drill it some and see what the results are. Thanks for sharing

 

[mafergut]

@earth2dan, In case you're wondering what happened to me last week in the race to sub-20, I am having another of those "going backwards" periods with 3x3. My Yuexiao feels looser and looser and I lock up a lot, I cleaned and lubed my Tanglong but the results left a lot to be desired and now it feels unstable even when tightened up, my old and comfy Chilong needs some cleaning as well so I am back to my Yueying. Anyway, it looks like the lack of practice and / or the big cube practice is having an impact in my 3x3 times and as I'm not CN with big cubes, CN 3x3 solving has suffered the most.
So last week I got like a low 21.xx average that I didn't even post on the thread (I hope you don't mind it) and my warm-up times for this week are not looking any better, with lots of sup-23s solves on non-white/yellow crosses. Not sure at the moment whether I should try to stick to full CN or just forget about it and go back to just dual CN. In any case my lookahead is nowhere to be seen these days.
Yeah, I know, this looks like a personal message but I just wanted to share it here with you all. Just doing that makes me feel a bit better. Having been ill this weekend is also not helping with my optimism right now

 

[h2f]

I did ao100 today with CFOP. I'm surprised because I feel like I've improved since switch - ao100 is 20.36 but 45 times are below 20 seconds barrier and I got few nice 15-16 solves without any skips.

Spoiler

Generated By csTimer on 2016-7-5
solves/total: 100/100

single
best: 15.09
worst: 30.00

mean of 3
current: 19.80 (σ = 1.81)
best: 17.25 (σ = 1.52)

avg of 5
current: 19.36 (σ = 1.05)
best: 17.25 (σ = 1.52)

avg of 12
current: 20.06 (σ = 1.16)
best: 18.97 (σ = 1.12)

avg of 50
current: 20.09 (σ = 1.61)
best: 20.08 (σ = 1.81)

avg of 100
current: 20.36 (σ = 1.88)
best: 20.36 (σ = 1.88)

Average: 20.36 (σ = 1.88)
Mean: 20.48
time distribution:
14+: 2
16+: 12
18+: 31
20+: 34
22+: 11
24+: 7
26+: 2
28+: 0
30+: 1

@mafergut, maybe You need a little break?

 

[Schmidt]

First time in awhile again. You might be able to beat my 4x4x4 this time, Marcel
https://www.speedsolving.com/competitions/index.php?showPerson=127

 

[muchacho]

First sub-20 ao12: 19.858 (it was 20.226 from 3-jul)

At some point I was expecting to be sub-20 after practicing 3x3 for a year, but at another point I just was hoping for being sub-30, so I should be happy about having a sub-20 ao12

Spoiler

22142 05-jul-2016 16:20:41 00:18.943 R2 D B2 L2 F2 D R2 D' L2 D' F U B' R D U L' D L2 U L'
22141 05-jul-2016 16:19:50 00:19.166 R2 D' B2 F2 U' B2 R2 B2 U' R2 U' B' L F R L' B2 U' B' U' B
22140 05-jul-2016 16:19:09 00:15.788 R2 B2 R2 L2 U' B2 D' R2 D' F2 R2 F' L' U' B F L2 B2 D L' D' U'
22139 05-jul-2016 16:18:14 00:21.078 L2 B2 D' R2 U R2 F2 D B2 L F' R2 D U' R' D' U' B D' F'
22138 05-jul-2016 16:17:25 00:21.575 L2 F2 L2 F2 D' R2 U2 B2 U F2 D F D2 R' L2 D' B R2 B2 D2 R
22137 05-jul-2016 16:16:41 00:21.360 F2 D' B2 R2 D L2 D L2 U B2 U2 F R2 B U' F R' D L D' B U2
22136 05-jul-2016 16:15:56 00:17.680 R2 D2 L2 D' R2 U2 B2 D L2 U R2 B R' L' U' B' D2 R L' D2 F' D2
22135 05-jul-2016 16:15:18 00:19.062 D R2 U R2 D F2 U2 B2 U' R' B R2 L D2 B' D U2 L U R2 U2
22134 05-jul-2016 16:14:36 00:17.382 U2 L2 D R2 U' F2 D2 B2 U L D2 L2 D' R B L F2 D R2 D'
22133 05-jul-2016 16:13:53 00:20.822 L2 D2 L2 F2 R2 D B2 U' R2 B2 R B F2 D F' U2 L D2 L' B2 U'
22132 05-jul-2016 16:13:11 00:21.518 U' L2 U F2 D' B2 L2 D B2 F2 D' L F R2 L2 D B' U' L U' L2 U'
22131 05-jul-2016 16:12:25 00:23.607 D B2 D' B2 D2 L2 U' L2 U2 B2 U2 R' F' U' B L' F D2 R' B' R' U'