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mafergut said:
@JohnnyReggae, interesting what you say about the Meiyu. Now I'm curious to try one out but, of course, I'm not going to risk buying one and being bad.
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Not sure how the 2nd batch compares with the 1st, some reviews have said there is very little difference. I've found the MeiYu to be better than both versions of the Aosu. My mini Aosu pops internal pieces quite frequently, just like the Guansu.
 
I found the "Goals" thread and decided to post some goals there to motivate me. Some are more challenging than others. I aso put a link to my goals post in my signature. Let's see how many I achieved by the end of Sept.
 
muchacho said:
ok, I've posted mine there too, it's good to have some goals. Same deadline, but I can't focus on many events.

2x2: sub-6.5 mo100
3x3: sub-20 mo100
3x3OH: sub-45 ao12

I was going to write sub-21 on 3x3 but let's be too optimistic :p
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Well, I really hope I can achieve most of mine. Probably the sub-18 Ao50 at 3x3 and the sub-1min single and sub-1:10 Ao5 at 4x4 are the most challenging. The goals for 5x5 should be easy, if we believe the 2x factor vs 4x4. And the one about buying a 6x6 I'm sure I'll achieve it :p

By the way, good luck with your goals. I'm sure you can do it. I was tempted to put an OH goal myself too but that would be a stretch. I'll leave OH and BLD for Christmas goals ;)
 
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Went to get coffee this morning and did some OH while I waited. Saw a 3 move orange cross pretty quickly on one scramble and decided to go for it (I'm not even remotely color neutral). Got to LL at 18.xy when the barista had to come ask me my order again. Did the wrong COLL while I looked up and told him the order again. Finished with a 31.xy after he walked off and I think he thought I was really annoyed. "It's just that it was orange cross." I don't think he understood.
 
My Yuxin 6x6 and 4x4 arrived today! I haven't had much time to play with them yet but here's my "out of the box" impressions.

The 6x6 is great. I haven't even done a solve yet and it's an instant main over my AoShi. It's smaller and has a tighter, more stable feeling than the AoShi. It feels very similar to the Yuxin 5x5, which is a feat for an even numbered cube. The colours are very nice. Compared to the 5x5 the green and red are both darker, which is a huge improvement. The yellow is lighter, and the orange is less fluorescent. Blue is the same. It's a very nice looking puzzle with excellent contrast. There will be no problems with recognition here. It's overlubed from the factory, so I might take it apart to clean it and re-lube it, but this is a really nice puzzle. No regrets.

The 4x4 had me disappointed before I even touched it. I guess this one slipped passed quality control. Three of the pieces on the white face appear to have had some blue dye spill over on them. It's not the end of the world, but it definitely tarnishes the aesthetic of an otherwise really nice looking puzzle. Colours are the same as the 6x6, so very nice. This one feels like it has zero lube out of the box, so it feels kind of scratchy. Outer layers feel great, but there is some noticeable catching on the middle layers. The catching is reminiscent of my G4 before I started breaking it in. I'm not too worried about the catching yet, as I've seen that go away with break in. Though, I might contact Cubicle about this one. I'm a little OCD and those blemishes on the white face are going to drive me crazy.

Also, got the newer Gans 356 Master. It's still in the box though. I'll play with it tonight.

Edit: Disregard my complaints about the dye on the 4x4. A little elbow grease and I was able to clean it up. It looks great now :)
 
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earth2dan said:
My Yuxin 6x6 and 4x4 arrived today! I haven't had much time to play with them yet but here's my "out of the box" impressions.

The 6x6 is great. I haven't even done a solve yet and it's an instant main over my AoShi. It's smaller and has a tighter, more stable feeling than the AoShi. [...]
The 4x4 [...] Outer layers feel great, but there is some noticeable catching on the middle layers. The catching is reminiscent of my G4 before I started breaking it in. [...]
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So, in summary. I have to order the 6x6 and the 4x4 is no better than the CB G4 so it is a pass on this one. Or am I missing anything?
 
mark49152 said:
I decided I would not order the Yuxin 6x6 because I don't care enough about 6x6... but my will was too weak. It should arrive next week.
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In my case I don't have a 6x6 yet so, even if it was just as good as an Aoshi I would go for it for the non-candy colours stickerless option and for the cheaper price. I don't care much about 6x6 yet but I don't think there are other options. The Shengshou is even cheaper but nobody recommends that.
 
mafergut said:
So, in summary. I have to order the 6x6 and the 4x4 is no better than the CB G4 so it is a pass on this one. Or am I missing anything?
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I just finished a 6x6 solve and while executing OLL parity alg a piece of the core mechanism popped out of place and it took a good 10 minutes to get it fixed without disassembling the puzzle. To soon for me to say if this is a possible defect or just bad luck on my first solve. Going to do a few more solves and see how it goes. That's never happened with my AoShi...

Edit: I think I was just being sloppy. No problems with the last couple solves. My only issue is that it's been too heavily lubed. I'm afraid I will have to take it apart and clean it.

Too soon to tell on the 4x4. It badly needs some break in and probably a little lube before I can pass judgement. I've done a couple solves and it feels really good, like it could be better than the G4. I've been solving the G4 a lot lately, but I still think my AoSu is my best 4x4.
 
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I've broken my Aoshi and I've decided not to buy new Yuxin. Instead I should buy 7x7 but I'm waiting if Yuxin will release one.

I did 100 solves today and I've finished it with ao100 24.99. ;)
 
Wow, "LSE skip", cube was solved after EO, I don't know the numbers but probability must be low o_O

20698 15-jun-2016 8:33:44 00:23.096 R2 L2 U R2 U' R2 U2 B2 U2 F2 U L' B U' F' U F2 R D' U B L'

I'm trying to reconstruct.

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Wow, now I'm really amazed... by how inefficient can I be :D
z
M2 R' Uw' U M L' U L U M2 U2 L' U L
R' U M' U R2 U' M R' U' R M2 R' U R R U R' M U2 M' Rw U Rw'
U U2 R U2 R' U' R U R' U' R U R' U' R U' R'
U' M U' M U' M' U M'

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So only 4*4*360=5760? I don't remember to have seen so many skips of that kind...
TDM said:
Corners (AUF): 4
Centres: 4
EO: 2^5 = 32
EP: 6!/2 = 360

4*4*360*32 = 184320
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https://www.speedsolving.com/forum/threads/probability-thread.20384/page-38#post-995934
 
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Awsome @muchacho, David. Quite hard scramble even if there's so many pairs (too many). My first attempt was with this pair (31.xx) second with your block but another solution - I havent watched your FB - 26.xx. After reconstruction I've seen the SB was very short but during speedsolve I had a lot AUF's.
R2 L2 U R2 U' R2 U2 B2 U2 F2 U L' B U' F' U F2 R D' U B L'
z R U F2 u M2 F'
U' R U r U' M U2 r U R'
x' R' D R U' R' D' R U x
U2 M' U' M
U M U2 M U M' U2 M2 U2 M'

38 stm (with cancelation 37)
 
newtonbase said:
The fact that the Yuxin 6x6 is similar to their 5x5 is very tempting but I'll resist. I'll never hit soft cutoff on 5x5 so going higher order is a waste of time and money. I own the Shengshou if I want to play.
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Decided to have a look at my PB's vs UK soft cut for higher-order cubes:

4x4 PB 1:35.xx vs 1:30.00 soft cut: 5.56% over
5x5 PB 3:15.xx vs 2:30.00 soft cut: 30.00% over
6x6 PB 6:56.xx vs 5:00.00 soft cut: 38.67% over
7x7 PB 10:13.xx vs 7:00.00 soft cut: 45.95% over

I was surprised how similar the percentage gaps are that I would need to close between 5x5 and 6x6.

Maybe one day... :)
 
Shaky Hands said:
Decided to have a look at my PB's vs UK soft cut for higher-order cubes
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Are these just average, or is there a uniform standard for time limits in the UK? I've looked at comps in the US and found, for example, 4x4 soft cuts anywhere from 2:00 all the way down to 1:00. US Nationals has a 4x4 soft cut of 1:10.
 
One Wheel said:
Are these just average, or is there a uniform standard for time limits in the UK? I've looked at comps in the US and found, for example, 4x4 soft cuts anywhere from 2:00 all the way down to 1:00. US Nationals has a 4x4 soft cut of 1:10.
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These are standard in the UK and have been for years. Euros has tough cuts - 1:00 for 4x4 and 2:00 for 5x5. I guess with the large number of entrants they need to whittle it down early.
 
@One Wheel, I suspect there will be more difference in cutoffs in the US as they will have a wider variety of delegates involved, whereas our delegates cover the whole of the UK, as well as the Republic of Ireland.

There are some events where there have been differing cutoffs in the past year (Clock is one) but for the main cubes, as @mark49152 said, they have remained the same for quite a while now.

I think the only event that has a completely universal cutoff is FMC (80 moves.)
 
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