Music City Winter 2016 - January 2, 2016

[JustinTimeCuber]

dyk...
Daniel Wannamaker got a sub 10 average in the finals?
The 4x4 soft cutoff was slower than the 5x5 soft cutoff?
I got a 0x0 UWR of 0.001?
They forgot to scramble my cube for one of my attempts?
Noah Joiner was the real Noah?
The other Noahs were clones?
Someone got a sub-9 single and didn't get to the finals?
Only 40% of 3BLD competitors got a success?
Only 30% of 3BLD attempts were successes?
+2s are super sad when they make you fail a cutoff *cough* *cough*?
They gave away these weird Cubix Tube things?
Aussie should legally change his middle name to '6x6er'?
People should stop telling me I suck at 2x2 just because I messed up 2 solves?
I literally can't even?

 

[YouCubing]

dyk...
Daniel Wannamaker got a sub 10 average in the finals?
The 4x4 soft cutoff was slower than the 5x5 soft cutoff?
I got a 0x0 UWR of 0.001?
They forgot to scramble my cube for one of my attempts?
Noah Joiner was the real Noah?
The other Noahs were clones?
Someone got a sub-9 single and didn't get to the finals?
Only 40% of 3BLD competitors got a success?
Only 30% of 3BLD attempts were successes?
+2s are super sad when they make you fail a cutoff *cough* *cough*?
They gave away these weird Cubix Tube things?
Aussie should legally change his middle name to '6x6er'?
People should stop telling me I suck at 2x2 just because I messed up 2 solves?
I literally can't even?

They should lower the competitor limit next time imo?
Not trying to be rude, but
a. The comp wouldn't have been as behind, if at all
b. I like comps with less people

 

[JustinTimeCuber]

They should lower the competitor limit next time imo?
Not trying to be rude, but
a. The comp wouldn't have been as behind, if at all
b. I like comps with less people

I agree with this, and also I suggest a harsher 4x4 soft cutoff, 2:45 is ridiculous almost everyone got it

 

[YouCubing]

I agree with this, and also I suggest a harsher 4x4 soft cutoff, 2:45 is ridiculous almost everyone got it

+9,001
Still had fun though.

 

[JustinTimeCuber]

+9,001
Still had fun though.

Yeah, it was definitely fun, and I'm glad I got over not getting a 2x2 average without it ruining my day. That would have been sad.

 

[YouCubing]

Yeah, it was definitely fun, and I'm glad I got over not getting a 2x2 average without it ruining my day. That would have been sad.

Your ability to judge my final 3x3 solve in the first round was sad as well. And my ability to solve it.

 

[JustinTimeCuber]

Your ability to judge my final 3x3 solve in the first round was sad as well. And my ability to solve it.

Noah you are a nub. That was funny tho xD

 

[YouCubing]

I don't think the competitor number will surpass 100.

LOOOOOOOOOL

 

[JustinTimeCuber]

*still not quite sure why Chris got mad at me near the end of the comp...*
*thinks*
*honestly what is this I don't remember*
*kden be that way*
*solves -3x-3x-3 in -12 seconds, lots of times*
*for some reason I can't do that darn*

 

[Dadd]

Personal accomplishments
Pb 3x3 avg in comp on first round (sub 15)
Made it to second round
Pb 3x3 single in comp in second round (11)

Not so accomplishments
Sq1 explosion on qiyi, had to superglue a piece.
Ruined my 3x3 avg on the first round with a 17
Dnf on 4x4 solve due to having my phone display on for Wifi on my gopro
1:45 5x5 soft cutoff and falling asleep during my 5x5 solves

 

[Kit Clement]

They should lower the competitor limit next time imo?
Not trying to be rude, but
a. The comp wouldn't have been as behind, if at all
b. I like comps with less people

Competitor limits shouldn't be used for the purposes of having a smoother schedule -- if there's room, it's terrible not to include more cubers, and goes against the mission of the WCA. The fairer solution, as you said, is stricter cutoffs. A 2:45 cutoff on 4x4 is incredibly lenient for 100+ people.

 

[JustinTimeCuber]

Competitor limits shouldn't be used for the purposes of having a smoother schedule -- if there's room, it's terrible not to include more cubers, and goes against the mission of the WCA. The fairer solution, as you said, is stricter cutoffs. A 2:45 cutoff on 4x4 is incredibly lenient for 100+ people.

I disagree with your opinion on competitor limits. I think that although a bigger competition would have more cubers, it wouldn't be as good. Smaller comps can fit more events, they can have more lenient cutoffs, and less noise makes it less distracting. I do think that the thing about it going against the goal of the WCA is a good point, though.

 

[Walrusizer]

may i just note that i got a 10.4 single with an 18 second average

 

[Kit Clement]

I disagree with your opinion on competitor limits. I think that although a bigger competition would have more cubers, it wouldn't be as good. Smaller comps can fit more events, they can have more lenient cutoffs, and less noise makes it less distracting. I do think that the thing about it going against the goal of the WCA is a good point, though.

I'd think anyone would rather go to a competition with stricter cutoffs than stare at a closed registration form. Not everyone is checking the WCA/CUSA websites every day and it is very easy to miss the registration window in certain places. There are always limited "resources" in the planning of a competition, and trying to gain more events/rounds at the expense of other competitors should be avoided when possible.

Also, when you're under ~125-150 competitors, being able to maintain a normal schedule shouldn't really matter regardless of competitor count, as more competitors means you have a larger pool of volunteers. After that, you likely need to run more than 12 stations to match the size of the competitor pool, which is difficult for the size of most regional venues.

 

[JustinTimeCuber]

I'd think anyone would rather go to a competition with stricter cutoffs than stare at a closed registration form. Not everyone is checking the WCA/CUSA websites every day and it is very easy to miss the registration window in certain places. There are always limited "resources" in the planning of a competition, and trying to gain more events/rounds at the expense of other competitors should be avoided when possible.

Also, when you're under ~125-150 competitors, being able to maintain a normal schedule shouldn't really matter regardless of competitor count, as more competitors means you have a larger pool of volunteers. After that, you likely need to run more than 12 stations to match the size of the competitor pool, which is difficult for the size of most regional venues.

well as an organizer I wouldn't make a stupid competitor limit of like 40, but 85 (the original limit for this comp) seems reasonable. I understand your points, but my opinion is that larger competitions are more stressful and smaller ones are more relaxed. Disagree with that all you want, that is just me.

 

[Kit Clement]

well as an organizer I wouldn't make a stupid competitor limit of like 40, but 85 (the original limit for this comp) seems reasonable. I understand your points, but my opinion is that larger competitions are more stressful and smaller ones are more relaxed. Disagree with that all you want, that is just me.

Don't get me wrong, there are only 40 competitors registered for my competition next weekend, and I couldn't be happier for my own sanity. From an organization perspective, saying that larger comps = stress, small comps = nice is nearly a fact; it's like saying that sunny, moderate weather is nice and cold, snowy weather is stressful -- not too many people are going to argue with you. I just think we do a disservice to the community by arbitrarily holding low competitor limits when the venue space is there.

 

[JustinTimeCuber]

Don't get me wrong, there are only 40 competitors registered for my competition next weekend, and I couldn't be happier for my own sanity. From an organization perspective, saying that larger comps = stress, small comps = nice is nearly a fact; it's like saying that sunny, moderate weather is nice and cold, snowy weather is stressful -- not too many people are going to argue with you. I just think we do a disservice to the community by arbitrarily holding low competitor limits when the venue space is there.

I agree with this, I just maybe look at it more from the perspective of making a trade-off between an awesome competition for fewer people and a less amazing competition for lots of people. I don't think cutoffs of 40/50 are that great, but around 80 is in my opinion a pretty good balance.

 

[AlexMaass]

More timers really does help make competitions more smooth.

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

@Justin: All Kit is saying is that although organizing a smaller comp is easier, you shouldn't make competitor limits for the sole purpose of making it easier. If you're low on staff or don't have much space in the venue then you should set a competitor limit. Don't ruin others' fun for your own personal preferences.

 

[JustinTimeCuber]

@Justin: All Kit is saying is that although organizing a smaller comp is easier, you shouldn't make competitor limits for the sole purpose of making it easier. If you're low on staff or don't have much space in the venue then you should set a competitor limit. Don't ruin others' fun for your own personal preferences.

I completely understand that, I'm just stating my opinion