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Cheers Mike. Yes the first four were OLL parity. Can't remember about PLL but at least two. There was one solve where I had an adjacent PLL parity and didn't spot it until I was throwing the cube down - nearly a DNF :).

Yeah. I have to be careful that I don't recognise PLLs from just 2 sides on the 4x4. I think I make that mistake most often when I think I see an EPLL and don't check another side for parity.
 
Well, funny you should ask that, because I went to my first comp this weekend (Glorious North). I thoroughly enjoyed it. I was the oldest competitor by quite a margin, and when I first arrived I thought I was going to feel out of place, but that passed after I had talked to a few people and settled in. It was great fun to meet like-minded people and talk about the hobby I enjoy so much, since I don't know anyone else who does it. Glorious North was a smaller event, ~50 competitors, and I can imagine at a larger event like US Nats it would have been a different and probably more difficult experience.

As for results, I went with no expectations or goals, and did better than I thought I might, so wasn't disappointed. Here's how it went, in chronological order.
  • 4x4: For my first competitive event I decided to not even think about speed, and just try to get it solved without screwing up. My hands were still a bit shaky though. There was an average cut of 1:30 so I was delighted to get a 1:27 on the second solve, so I could continue. After that I relaxed a bit and even got a 1:14 best, which would be a good time for me even at home. Average 1:29.
  • 5x5: Little hope of getting anywhere the 2:30 average cut, so I wasn't too nervous, and got a 3:03 best which would be pretty good for me even at home. Would have been sub-3 if I hadn't mangled the PLL.
  • 2x2: Came off the rails early on day two. Although I got a couple of 6s, there were also a 9 and 10, and a shocker of a DNF - screwed up PBL three times over. The first two times I started solving the cube again. On the third screw-up I just hit the timer. It was already on 20-something and a DNF on the score sheet would be less embarrassing :D. Final average 8.95. Actually I found 2x2 the hardest event because there's just no time to regain composure.
  • 3x3: Tried to stay calm for the main event and was pleased to get three sub-20s in the first 4 solves, including a 17.05. I was in with a real chance of a sub-20 average and that made me nervous for the final solve. I didn't screw it up, but got a bit shaky and came in at 24 for an average of 20.69. Was gutted to miss out on the second round by 0.02 seconds!

So all in all, a good weekend, and even if my results had sucked I think I'd still be happy and up for doing it again. Maybe you could try a smaller comp and see if that works better for you? And if comps are not for you, it doesn't matter, as long as you're still enjoying the hobby.

Awesome Mark! I really really hope I can get a 3X3 average around the 20 secs. At home no problem :) But with shacky competition hand a whole different story. Nice to see you managed to do well! I bet if you had gone to a 2nd round with less nerves the result might have been even better. Also good job on the 4X4 and 5X5. I did not even register for that. :)



My 5th solve of today

https://alg.cubing.net/?setup=R2_U_...-_//_PLL_(13)_ //59_MOVES_IN_12.84_=_4.5_tps

Unfortunate rest of Ao50 did blew.. It was even sup 20.. Bleh!
 
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Oh man, that sucks. I bet if you would have made a nice average the whole 'experience' would have so much different. I had a crap first average on my first competition. And on my second... LOL. In fact I have never had a good avarage. I once had a 25 average when I was averaging at home. Now these days I am happy with good singles. If I break my single PB on a competition I had a great day. And competitions are more about talking to people. Not really about times. I care much more about my averages at home. Competition is too much of a short moment in which you can be better than normal or suck major :).

Yeah, a decent 3x3 average would have made things better. At least I would have met my modest competition goals of sub 30 avg, and any success on 3bld and mbld. I still enjoyed things overall. It was worth the trip just to watch some of the best in the world, and I was also there for a mini-vacation to Hilton Head.
Hopefully you can get that elusive sub 20 avg in a comp. You do plenty good enough at home. I guess the little bit of nervousness doesn't go away even after several comps.

Well, funny you should ask that, because I went to my first comp this weekend (Glorious North). I thoroughly enjoyed it. I was the oldest competitor by quite a margin, and when I first arrived I thought I was going to feel out of place, but that passed after I had talked to a few people and settled in. It was great fun to meet like-minded people and talk about the hobby I enjoy so much, since I don't know anyone else who does it. Glorious North was a smaller event, ~50 competitors, and I can imagine at a larger event like US Nats it would have been a different and probably more difficult experience.

As for results, I went with no expectations or goals, and did better than I thought I might, so wasn't disappointed. Here's how it went, in chronological order.
  • 4x4: For my first competitive event I decided to not even think about speed, and just try to get it solved without screwing up. My hands were still a bit shaky though. There was an average cut of 1:30 so I was delighted to get a 1:27 on the second solve, so I could continue. After that I relaxed a bit and even got a 1:14 best, which would be a good time for me even at home. Average 1:29.
  • 5x5: Little hope of getting anywhere the 2:30 average cut, so I wasn't too nervous, and got a 3:03 best which would be pretty good for me even at home. Would have been sub-3 if I hadn't mangled the PLL.
  • 2x2: Came off the rails early on day two. Although I got a couple of 6s, there were also a 9 and 10, and a shocker of a DNF - screwed up PBL three times over. The first two times I started solving the cube again. On the third screw-up I just hit the timer. It was already on 20-something and a DNF on the score sheet would be less embarrassing :D. Final average 8.95. Actually I found 2x2 the hardest event because there's just no time to regain composure.
  • 3x3: Tried to stay calm for the main event and was pleased to get three sub-20s in the first 4 solves, including a 17.05. I was in with a real chance of a sub-20 average and that made me nervous for the final solve. I didn't screw it up, but got a bit shaky and came in at 24 for an average of 20.69. Was gutted to miss out on the second round by 0.02 seconds!

So all in all, a good weekend, and even if my results had sucked I think I'd still be happy and up for doing it again. Maybe you could try a smaller comp and see if that works better for you? And if comps are not for you, it doesn't matter, as long as you're still enjoying the hobby.

Great that you had such a good time, and got pretty good results too. I definitely think I would be more comfortable and more sociable at a smaller comp. I'll probably try a smaller local comp next year. I'd probably even go back to US Nats if it ever comes back nearby to me.
 
I know some people hate the Gans 356 and some love it. I have three of them and it has been my main for a month now. I am truely convinced about this cube. It is very forgiving, fast and controllable and it has the perfect size. (Meiying too small, HuaLong too big). It only takes some skill to set the cube up correct. I have them set up like this:

The screws in the corners: tighten them untill completely tied, then unscrew one and half turn.
Centers: I have them little more tightened than factory tentions so a tiny bit of metal is sticking out. It cuts now no 45 degrees (with normal force), but only 40.

This set up makes the Gans 356 perfect. Really really nice. Here are some sample solves. My first solves of the day:

Generated By csTimer on 2015-8-7
solves/total: 6/6

single
best: 16.76
worst: 19.55

mean of 3
current: 17.73 (σ = 1.21)
best: 17.73 (σ = 1.21)

avg of 5
current: 18.54 (σ = 1.03)
best: 18.54 (σ = 1.03)

Average: 18.62 (σ = 0.86)
Mean: 18.46

Time List:
1. 18.84 U' B' R' U' L2 F L2 U F U2 L2 B2 R2 B2 D R2 D' B2 U' B2 L
2. 19.19 U' R2 F2 L2 B2 D' L2 D B2 D2 U' L U' L R2 F' U' B R' U'
3. 19.55 U2 F2 R' F2 L2 D2 F2 U2 F2 L' R B' U2 F L U F' D' L2 F
4. 19.08 U' R' F2 L' D2 F2 L' U2 R2 D2 F2 U2 F D B' D U L2 F2 L' B
5. 16.76 U2 L' U2 F2 L U F' R2 B L' B2 R' U2 F2 U2 L' U2 F2 R
6. 17.35 B' R2 F2 L2 B2 U2 L2 D' U2 B2 R' D2 L U2 L B' D' L U2

 
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I got it last week but I think I like the aochuang a bit more. the feeling is similar to the yuxin 4x4 and 3x3, very loose cubes that sometimes go faster than I would like to. Value for money? Absolutely. I also ordered the stickerless huachuang but I haven't tried it yet.

I got the Cyclone Boys 5X5 two days ago. I love it. Never will use the AoChuang again. People complain about locks, but compared to my SS 5x5 it never locks. Compared to the AoChuang.. yeah it locks more... but it is completely neglitable because it is so nice in easy turning... Mine is not loose btw.. But then again I might like loose bigger cubes. I prefer my Yuxin 4X4 over my AuSu.
 
Nice solves Marcel. I'm not so sure about the third one though. ;)

You must get to know the feel of more cubes than 99.9% of the community. How do you store them all or have you built a bigger house using cubes instead of bricks? :)

Edit: HuaLong is my favourite for 2H and mini WeiLong for OH. I haven't tried the Gans for 2H or mini Zhanchi for OH which are other popular mains.
 
Nice solves Marcel. I'm not so sure about the third one though. ;)
LOL, wrong PLL.. and then when I try to correct it, again I perform the wrong PLL.. :)

You must get to know the feel of more cubes than 99.9% of the community.

Yeah, buying cubes is big part of the fun for me. I have a big box where I stock all the cubes. I give some away now and then to people who do not cube but seem interested.

If you really have not tried the Gans 356 I would think you will love it for OH. It is the most forgiving cube there is. But then again, you might hate it like some do ;) I like HuaLong a lot but do not get same times as with the Gans 356. Too many lockups.
 
Awesome Mark! I really really hope I can get a 3X3 average around the 20 secs. At home no problem :) But with shacky competition hand a whole different story. Nice to see you managed to do well! I bet if you had gone to a 2nd round with less nerves the result might have been even better. Also good job on the 4X4 and 5X5. I did not even register for that. :)
Cheers. Yeah I was glad I went to the comp and will definitely try to go to more. The nerves were definitely there, but also I think I had much better focus than when I'm solving at home, so it worked both ways. My only goal was to not utterly screw up and embarrass myself and it was a relief to achieve that goal :)

I had a look at your results and you haven't competed yet this year - are you planning to?

I was inspired by the BLD I saw, including Zak Walters' 1:01 3BLD, and Lorenzo Poli storming through the execution of a 15/15 MBLD. Awesome. Since the comp I've done nothing but BLD practice, and if I make it to ABHC in 3 weeks' time, my goal there is a 3BLD success.
 
I had a look at your results and you haven't competed yet this year - are you planning to?

Yeah, I am planning on Dutch Nationals this year. Hoping for a sub 20 average :) Although times where very important to me before now I enjoy the competition more just for being there.

Did you get BLD successes already? I suck too much at BLD. So I gave up..
 
Did you get BLD successes already? I suck too much at BLD. So I gave up..
Not yet. I'm learning step by step. I can solve corners BLD, with about 3/4 success rate, and am working on edges now. I can just about solve edges with M2 sighted, and once I feel I have all the algs down, I will learn the letters and memo for edges. For the last few solves I have memorized corners, then solved edges sighted, then closed eyes and solved corners without looking at them again, to test whether I can recall the corner memo after doing something else.

Yeah I agree about comp times - official PBs will always be nice but I care more about my times at home. Comps are just for fun. For BLD I just want an official success and don't care about the time.
 
If you really have not tried the Gans 356 I would think you will love it for OH. It is the most forgiving cube there is. But then again, you might hate it like some do ;) I like HuaLong a lot but do not get same times as with the Gans 356. Too many lockups.

I'll certainly try the 356 at some time but I'm in no particular hurry. I don't suffer lockups on the HuaLong which could be in part be related to differences in turning style. The mini MoYu cubes that I've tried (54.5mm) are a great size for OH but the mini AoLong was too unstable for me when doing OH. The mini WeiLong V2 doesn't have those stability issues but still turns really nicely and is comfy to hold / turn during OH. I don't feel like the cubes are slowing me down at the moment so it's me that needs improvement. :)

3BLD is on my bucket list... I might start later this year or some time in the new year.
 
LOL. I saw your response on Tapatalk and when I saw "when am sub-10", I thought you were referring to Pyra. :)

How are you getting on with the pointy puzzle btw? I saw you've posted a keyhole video...

Yeah, I figured I could help other people learning the method easily with my video.. I like Keyhole method now. I do not know how fast I am because I do not time myself. ;) I will probably use it on my next competition.

EDIT: for the ones who missed it:
 
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Maybe you should time yourself for an hour... Ao50 / Ao100 can be really quick for puzzles like 2x2 and Pyra. :)

Don't worry mate.. you are much faster.. :) Did an Ao12 for you because I am not yet used to speedsolving this puzzle:
Gegenereerd door csTimer op 2015-8-10
solves/totaal: 12/12

enkele
Beste: 16.58
Slechtste: 24.08

mean van 3
Actuele: 18.86 (σ = 1.72)
Beste: 16.99 (σ = 0.49)

avg of 5
Actuele: 18.66 (σ = 1.38)
Beste: 18.10 (σ = 1.58)

avg of 12
Actuele: 19.37 (σ = 1.99)
Beste: 19.37 (σ = 1.99)

Gemiddelde: 19.37 (s = 1.99)
Mean: 19.53

Lijst met tijden:
1. 18.70 L' U' R' L U' L R L' l r b u
2. 20.53 U L U' L R L' B' R l' r b
3. 23.44 B' L' R' L' U' R' L' R' l r b u'
4. 24.08 B' U' L U' R' B' L' U l' r
5. 19.88 U L U' L B U' R' B' U' l u'
6. 17.54 U B L' U R' B L R l r
7. 16.58 L' B' U L U B' R B L' r b'
8. 16.87 L B L R' B L R B' L' l' b'
9. 20.22 L U L U' L' B R U' l r u
10. 20.81 U B' R' B L' R' L R' l' r b
11. 18.17 U R B U L' U' L' B r u
12. 17.59 U B' R' B' L B' R B' r' b' u'

Pretty cool for me though... 4 seconds faster than my best offical average
 
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