WCA Hall of Fame

[Dene]

Maybe it could be split into sections e.g. Speed, WRs, whatever. It could also be split into 'levels of honour', in which some people are higher up in the Hall of Fame than others?

Lol ye let's just induct the whole database into the hall of fame. I'm sure they've all done something...

Also I don't see why Kevin Hays would belong in a Hall of Fame (no offence to him in particular, just because his name is being thrown about without question).

 

[Stefan]

Submit your nominations and I will draft up some guidelines/history.

Ron van Bruchem
Shotaro Makisumi
Chris Hardwick
Dan Knights
Yu Nakajima
Dan Cohen
Richard Carr
Dror Vomberg
Jaap Scherphuis
Lars Vandenbergh
Herbert Kociemba
Tomas Rokicki
Mátyás Kuti

 

[tseitsei]

Mátyás Kuti

WUT?!

He should absolutely definitely NEVER be in Hall of fame or receive any other sort of respect whatsoever. He cheated. That outweighs every single good thing he might have ever done to speedsolving IMO.

 

[ender9994]

Are we trying to limit this mostly to just people who have directly influenced the WCA (competing, organizing etc.) or others with less direct influence as well?

Basically what Stefan said above me, plus...
-Ernő Rubik
-Jessica Fridrich
-Chris Hardwick

 

[Ranzha]

Ron van Bruchem
Shotaro Makisumi
Chris Hardwick
Dan Knights
Yu Nakajima
Dan Cohen
Richard Carr
Dror Vomberg
Jaap Scherphuis
Lars Vandenbergh
Herbert Kociemba
Tomas Rokicki
Mátyás Kuti

I agree with all the names on this list that I know.

 

[tseitsei]

I haven't been around long enough to know all of the people from earlier years but I would suggest the following people:

Stefan Pochmann
Chris Hardwick
Jessica Fridrich
Lars Petrus
Gilles Roux
Herbert Kociemba
Feliks Zemdegs
Marcin Kowalczyk

I'm sure I missed much (even better) candidates but those came to my mind instantly without thinking...

 

[Ollie]

I haven't been around long enough to know all of the people from earlier years but I would suggest the following people:

Stefan Pochmann
Chris Hardwick
Jessica Fridrich
Lars Petrus
Gilles Roux
Herbert Kociemba
Feliks Zemdegs
Marcin Kowalczyk

I'm sure I missed much (even better) candidates but those came to my mind instantly without thinking...

Marcell Endrey?

WRs in every BLD event, won every BLD event in WC2013 and Euro 2012, and made huge improvements in both big BLD WRs

Edit: oh, and Means of 3 in both big BLDs. He has literally accomplished everything worthwhile in BLD.

 

[obelisk477]

Well no one has mentioned Faz since the official nomination request, so:

Feliks Zemdegs

I can't imagine that this is a preemptive nomination. I don't think anyone 5 years from now will be like, "Oh yeah, maybe he wasn't that great". I want to include Maskow too, but i'm not sold yet, mainly because he is only good at a very specific thing.

 

[penguinz7]

Zbigniew Zborowski

ZZ! Also FMC WR holder at one point.

 

[tseitsei]

Marcell Endrey?

WRs in every BLD event, won every BLD event in WC2013 and Euro 2012, and made huge improvements in both big BLD WRs

Edit: oh, and Means of 3 in both big BLDs. He has literally accomplished everything worthwhile in BLD.

Yeah definitely Marcell too!

I want to include Maskow too, but i'm not sold yet, mainly because he is only good at a very specific thing.

Yeah but how good!

The current MBLD WR is 15 cubes (!!!!) better than 2nd place result so that means the difference between 1st and 2nd place is 36% of the WR
That equals someone doing ~4.1s 3x3 single or ~4.8s 3x3 avg.
That is something totally amazing to me. He is so much ahead of everyone else...
Also he has 3BLD WRs in single and mean (and 7/10 of the top 10 3BLD singles...).

 

[StachuK1992]

Are Dene and I the only ones that think this is kind of ... dumb?
Ideally it'd be neat, but there's no way that this isn't going to end up in a popularity contest unless we have strict guidelines, which will never fully encompass something that everyone cares about.

 

[tseitsei]

Are Dene and I the only ones that think this is kind of ... dumb?
Ideally it'd be neat, but there's no way that this isn't going to end up in a popularity contest unless we have strict guidelines, which will never fully encompass something that everyone cares about.

It only gets dumb (IMO) if we let cubers in to the Hall of fame too easily... Inflation of this Hall of fame is the biggest obstacle I see for this. As long as you need to have done something truly exceptional to get there I like this idea.

And of course the decisions about who to accept should be made by intelligent, experienced and as objective as possible cubers only.

 

[Genius4Jesus]

It only gets dumb (IMO) if we let cubers in to the Hall of fame too easily... Inflation of this Hall of fame is the biggest obstacle I see for this. As long as you need to have done something truly exceptional to get there I like this idea.

And of course the decisions about who to accept should be made by intelligent, experienced and as objective as possible cubers only.

I agree with this thought.

Also, since now to be in the Hall of Fame you have to have done something amazing for an extended period of time (which I agree with), I guess Minh Thai is out.

 

[Genius4Jesus]

Submit your nominations and I will draft up some guidelines/history.

Cool, looks like this is amounting to something sort of legit.

I nominate:
-Feliks Zemdegs
-Erik Akkersdijk
-Rowe Hessler
-Yu Nakajima

IMO these are "generational cubers", who have been at the top for a long time.

(Also, I know they were already nominated, but I will still re-nominate them because they are just that good.)

 

[Ross The Boss]

i havent read every post -and i do not intend to - so forgive me if this has already been covered, but is this a proposal for a cubing hall of fame, or specifically a wca hall of fame? if the later, i believe an elected committee would be necessary.

 

[stoic]

I was on a football forum earlier in the week, and people there were discussing what qualifies a player as a "legend".
This thread is eerily reminiscent of it.
(Basically, a very small number were obvious but nobody could agree the criteria beyond that.)

 

[obelisk477]

I was on a football forum earlier in the week, and people there were discussing what qualifies a player as a "legend".
This thread is eerily reminiscent of it.
(Basically, a very small number were obvious but nobody could agree the criteria beyond that.)

IMO, the 'very small number that were obvious' should be the only criterion for Hall of Fame status. I mean it's subjective to be sure, but as long as you get people who arent obviously biased and are relatively well repsected, you're not gonna get a list that people disagree with for the most part.

 

[Deleted member 19792]

Guideline time!

In order for a speedcuber, retired, inactive (out of his prime), celebrity, or currently active, the following must be put into place before a nomination will be considered.


RETIRED -

The candidate will have had to not compete for three years, and it is recommended that a confirmed note of retirement is presented beforehand.

The candidate will have had to either :

Given such contributions to the cubing community, such as Gilles Roux, for inventing the Roux method.

Held a world record or a world championship title, but also presenting what can be considered a major improvement over other cubers. Such as Maskow's MultiBLD world record. It would be silly to put someone up for the Hall of Fame because they held a World Record for about a week. A good example of that would be the beginning of 2014, when about 15 people held the Skewb World Record in January.

Currently an inactive competitor, or a cuber out of their prime:

The candidate can qualify for this if he/she:

Has stopped going to competitions to be the "best that they can be", but going to either hang out, help out, or organize the competition. (A case like this would be Oliver Frost.)

Active:

Candidate must have held one or several meaningful World Records. The candidate also would have had to make a serious contribution to the community. (This can be dodged if the candidate has excelled greatly in one event. Example: Maskow, Feliks).

Celebrity:

Must have in any way popularized general cubing, but must be highly recognized and praised by the community itself. Examples include Will Smith, and Dan Brown. (Dan Brown is working in the media now, and he normally makes television appearances in New York.)

Let me know if any other guidelines need to be added/changed.


Also: When submitting nominations, include a bit of a description about the candidate. This way, it will help me look into it a bit more and will let me know what to emphasize on.

 

[Stefan]

So... Will Smith is ok, but Herbert Kociemba isn't? That's just wrong.

 

[JemFish]

Good guidelines. This should be added to the starter post.