[Video] Roux as a Beginner Method

[PJKCuber]

Thanks to you DeeDubb, I am going to join the race to sub 30 with Roux. Roux is so fun!!!!
I would have switched to it, but I want to be fast at bigger cubes also, so .... sadly I can't use Roux.

 

[TDM]

Thanks to you DeeDubb, I am going to join the race to sub 30 with Roux. Roux is so fun!!!!
I would have switched to it, but I want to be fast at bigger cubes also, so .... sadly I can't use Roux.

Or you could just use Roux for 3x3 and CFOP for bigcubes. Many Roux users don't use Roux for bigcubes.

 

[Future Cuber]

Or you could just use Roux for 3x3 and CFOP for bigcubes. Many Roux users don't use Roux for bigcubes.

Imagine using a lot if M moves on a 7x7
........

 

[PJKCuber]

Or you could just use Roux for 3x3 and CFOP for bigcubes. Many Roux users don't use Roux for bigcubes.

I know, but it's better to stick to CFOP because I want to be good at all cubic puzzles and BLD. Besides, I think I'll get worse at Yau if I use Roux. Faz and Alex Lau are about the same speed at 3x3, but there's a huge speed difference on big cubes.

 

[TDM]

I know, but it's better to stick to CFOP because I want to be good at all cubic puzzles and BLD. Besides, I think I'll get worse at Yau if I use Roux. Faz and Alex Lau are about the same speed at 3x3, but there's a huge speed difference on big cubes.

Using Roux won't make you any worse at BLD; if you use M2, maybe the practise using the M slice will actually help.
You won't get worse at bigcubes or 3x3 if you practise both. I remember seeing Alex Lau saying he doesn't like bigcubes somewhere; that difference in times isn't caused by the 3x3 stage. He just doesn't practise the reduction part of bigcubes much.

 

[FailCuber]

I know, but it's better to stick to CFOP because I want to be good at all cubic puzzles and BLD. Besides, I think I'll get worse at Yau if I use Roux. Faz and Alex Lau are about the same speed at 3x3, but there's a huge speed difference on big cubes.

No, only a few people like Feliks are good at most of the events. I think Alex practices 3x3 more then any other events.

Also, stop double posting. You always double post.

 

[PJKCuber]

No, only a few people like Feliks are good at most of the events. I think Alex practices 3x3 more then any other events.

Also, stop double posting. You always double post.

Yes, my internet connection is slow so I don't know If I have posted twice. I am pretty sure Faz does 3x3 most too.

 

[PJKCuber]

No, only a few people like Feliks are good at most of the events. I think Alex practices 3x3 more then any other events.

Also, stop double posting. You always double post.

Yes, my internet connection is slow so I don't know If I have posted twice. I am pretty sure Feliks does 3x3 most too. No not only Faz. Kevin Hays is sub 10 on 3x3 and great at big cubes. He's pretty good too.


As for TDM : Many Roux Users told me to just stick with CFOP so that I'd be better at 4x4 and big cubes.

 

[guysensei1]

At the very least delete the double posts.

 

[TDM]

Yes, my internet connection is slow so I don't know If I have posted twice. I am pretty sure Feliks does 3x3 most too. No not only Faz. Kevin Hays is sub 10 on 3x3 and great at big cubes. He's pretty good too.

Yes, but they probably actually practise bigcubes. That's nothing to do with the method they use for 3x3 or not.

As for TDM : Many Roux Users told me to just stick with CFOP so that I'd be better at 4x4 and big cubes.

Really, who? If I were you, I would use Roux for 3x3 and CFOP/Petrus for bigcubes.
But the 3x3 stage is not as near as an important part of bigcube solving as the reduction part, especially as you get to bigger and bigger cubes. Even if you only use CFOP for bigcubes (which is what I'm recommending) and you can't look ahead at all, that will barely affect your times. Getting to the 3x3 stage is ~2/3 of a 4x4 solve, ~5/6 of a 5x5 solve and is even more important for 6x6. If you use Roux for 3x3 and CFOP for bigcubes, you will be almost exactly the same speed at bigcubes as if you used CFOP for 3x3.

 

[PJKCuber]

Yes, but they probably actually practise bigcubes. That's nothing to do with the method they use for 3x3 or not.

Really, who? If I were you, I would use Roux for 3x3 and CFOP/Petrus for bigcubes.
But the 3x3 stage is not as near as an important part of bigcube solving as the reduction part, especially as you get to bigger and bigger cubes. Even if you only use CFOP for bigcubes (which is what I'm recommending) and you can't look ahead at all, that will barely affect your times. Getting to the 3x3 stage is ~2/3 of a 4x4 solve, ~5/6 of a 5x5 solve and is even more important for 6x6. If you use Roux for 3x3 and CFOP for bigcubes, you will be almost exactly the same speed at bigcubes as if you used CFOP for 3x3.

I'll try it.

 

[PJKCuber]

Yes, but they probably actually practise bigcubes. That's nothing to do with the method they use for 3x3 or not.

Really, who? If I were you, I would use Roux for 3x3 and CFOP/Petrus for bigcubes.
But the 3x3 stage is not as near as an important part of bigcube solving as the reduction part, especially as you get to bigger and bigger cubes. Even if you only use CFOP for bigcubes (which is what I'm recommending) and you can't look ahead at all, that will barely affect your times. Getting to the 3x3 stage is ~2/3 of a 4x4 solve, ~5/6 of a 5x5 solve and is even more important for 6x6. If you use Roux for 3x3 and CFOP for bigcubes, you will be almost exactly the same speed at bigcubes as if you used CFOP for 3x3.

I'll try it.

 

[Future Cuber]

Yes, but they probably actually practise bigcubes. That's nothing to do with the method they use for 3x3 or not.

Really, who? If I were you, I would use Roux for 3x3 and CFOP/Petrus for bigcubes.
But the 3x3 stage is not as near as an important part of bigcube solving as the reduction part, especially as you get to bigger and bigger cubes. Even if you only use CFOP for bigcubes (which is what I'm recommending) and you can't look ahead at all, that will barely affect your times. Getting to the 3x3 stage is ~2/3 of a 4x4 solve, ~5/6 of a 5x5 solve and is even more important for 6x6. If you use Roux for 3x3 and CFOP for bigcubes, you will be almost exactly the same speed at bigcubes as if you used CFOP for 3x3.

CFOP is better cos u wont use M moves as much as you would using Roux.....
and it would be annoying doing M moves on 5x5 and above

 

[TDM]

CFOP is better cos u wont use M moves as much as you would using Roux.....
and it would be annoying doing M moves on 5x5 and above

Re-read my post; I'm saying it's fine to use Roux on 3x3 and CFOP on bigcubes. You don't have to use the same method for everything!

 

[thatboyahcubah]

I think you got corner orientation and permutation mixed up

 

[DeeDubb]

I think you got corner orientation and permutation mixed up

Me? Where did I get it mixed up? You mean how I arranged it? I did that intentionally so they can use a Niklas for corner perm rather than a J-Perm or something.

As for my videos, I just added a new Roux tip. Check it out, and let me know what you think!

Spoiler

Here's a scramble where this works perfectly:

B' R2 D2 B2 D2 F2 L2 F U2 L2 U2 R' B' F2 U' L' B F' D R' U

 

[Qber]

DeeDub, thank you so much for posting this tutorial! I used to use Fridrich, and when i hit an average of 40 I decided it was getting boring, so I used this tutorial for roux to get from 1 minute 30 seconds to 33 second average, in a couple of weeks! Thank you so much... and btw, Let's start a new Hashtag: #RouxOverCFOP lol

 

[polikarpos]

Thanks for a great tutorial! It almost made me stop hating M slices. )

 

[DeeDubb]

DeeDub, thank you so much for posting this tutorial! I used to use Fridrich, and when i hit an average of 40 I decided it was getting boring, so I used this tutorial for roux to get from 1 minute 30 seconds to 33 second average, in a couple of weeks! Thank you so much... and btw, Let's start a new Hashtag: #RouxOverCFOP lol

Thank you so much for you kind words! I'm glad to hear you are progressing well. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help.

Thanks for a great tutorial! It almost made me stop hating M slices. )

Close, but no cigar, eh?



Also, I posted a new walkthrough solves video today. I'm trying to get back into the flow of things.

 

[MarcelP]

Your bump has made me go watch the first few video's! Nice.. I think I might go do Roux for a while What is your speed these days?