4 day competition?

[LucidCuber]

Has there ever been, or will there ever likely be a 4 day competition? Couldn't find anything after a quick search, but competitions seem to be getting longer and longer these days.

 

[Mikel]

For US Nationals 2014 I competed on 4 separate days. This was because I competed in the staff round that happened on Thursday before the "listed" competition dates (Friday-Sunday). I also ended up competing in Big BLD's and FMC which were held on all of the listed dates. I don't know of any competitions that are scheduled to run for 4 days on the WCA. It would be nice to have the extra time.

 

[CiaranBeahan]

Has there ever been, or will there ever likely be a 4 day competition? Couldn't find anything after a quick search, but competitions seem to be getting longer and longer these days.

It would more than likely be worlds where this happens and more than likely be 2017 or 2019 when worlds get ginormous. There would be a lot of sponsors involved and it would be tiring for the competitors themselves. I wouldn't be surprised if it happens by the end of the decade but won't be happening within the next 2-3 years.

 

[Coolster01]

It would more than likely be worlds where this happens and more than likely be 2017 or 2019 when worlds get ginormous. There would be a lot of sponsors involved and it would be tiring for the competitors themselves. I wouldn't be surprised if it happens by the end of the decade but won't be happening within the next 2-3 years.

Or we just remove feet and save so much time.

 

[LucidCuber]

Or we just remove feet and save so much time.

As much as I too am opposed to feet, I don't think it really takes up a significant amount of time compared to other events.

 

[PeelingStickers]

Or we just remove feet and save so much time.

you've changed :O

 

[Coolster01]

I was being sarcastic, feet took up literally the least time of any event at nats. One round for an event that is only 3 solves faster than 5x5 not complaining because I dont like practicing much anymore though so keep it that way! XD

 

[~Adam~]

I wouldn't be surprised if it happens by the end of the decade but won't be happening within the next 2-3 years.

I want to post "Challenge accepted" but 3 days almost killed me. Find me another organiser who wants to hold a 2 day comp and we can hold 2 days each.

 

[MaeLSTRoM]

I want to post "Challenge accepted" but 3 days almost killed me. Find me another organiser who wants to hold a 2 day comp and we can hold 2 days each.

O hey Adam, how are you ;D

 

[~Adam~]

3 rounds of every events?
We might actually have too much time on our hands. Need 100 competitors for 4 rounds.

 

[TMOY]

Reaching 100 competitors seems unrealistic for most events. But with 3 rounds of everything and nice cutoffs/hard limits, we would already be busy enough for the whole 4 days

 

[kunparekh18]

Reaching 100 competitors seems unrealistic for most events. But with 3 rounds of everything and nice cutoffs/hard limits, we would already be busy enough for the whole 4 days

In India we once had 300+ competitors for 3x3

Yeah a 4 day comp definitely seems possible given adequate participation and awesome cutoffs xD

 

[Dene]

It certainly doesn't seem out of the question, but would only be appropriate for a major event.

 

[~Adam~]

It certainly doesn't seem out of the question, but would only be appropriate for a major event.

Why?

 

[Stefan]

Spoiler: Competition Lengths by Year

Using data from WCA_export472_20140915 and Stefan's WCA Statistics Tools.

[TABLE="class:grid,align:left"]
[TR][TD]Year[/TD][TD]Competitions[/TD][TD]Average Days[/TD][TD]1 Day[/TD][TD]2 Days[/TD][TD]3 Days[/TD][TD]>3 Days[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD="align:right"]1982[/TD][TD="align:right"]1[/TD][TD="align:right"]1.0000[/TD][TD="align:right"]1[/TD][TD="align:right"]0[/TD][TD="align:right"]0[/TD][TD="align:right"]0[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD="align:right"]2003[/TD][TD="align:right"]2[/TD][TD="align:right"]1.5000[/TD][TD="align:right"]1[/TD][TD="align:right"]1[/TD][TD="align:right"]0[/TD][TD="align:right"]0[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD="align:right"]2004[/TD][TD="align:right"]12[/TD][TD="align:right"]1.0833[/TD][TD="align:right"]11[/TD][TD="align:right"]1[/TD][TD="align:right"]0[/TD][TD="align:right"]0[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD="align:right"]2005[/TD][TD="align:right"]24[/TD][TD="align:right"]1.1250[/TD][TD="align:right"]21[/TD][TD="align:right"]3[/TD][TD="align:right"]0[/TD][TD="align:right"]0[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD="align:right"]2006[/TD][TD="align:right"]33[/TD][TD="align:right"]1.2424[/TD][TD="align:right"]26[/TD][TD="align:right"]6[/TD][TD="align:right"]1[/TD][TD="align:right"]0[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD="align:right"]2007[/TD][TD="align:right"]53[/TD][TD="align:right"]1.1887[/TD][TD="align:right"]44[/TD][TD="align:right"]8[/TD][TD="align:right"]1[/TD][TD="align:right"]0[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD="align:right"]2008[/TD][TD="align:right"]109[/TD][TD="align:right"]1.2385[/TD][TD="align:right"]84[/TD][TD="align:right"]24[/TD][TD="align:right"]1[/TD][TD="align:right"]0[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD="align:right"]2009[/TD][TD="align:right"]169[/TD][TD="align:right"]1.3964[/TD][TD="align:right"]111[/TD][TD="align:right"]49[/TD][TD="align:right"]9[/TD][TD="align:right"]0[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD="align:right"]2010[/TD][TD="align:right"]226[/TD][TD="align:right"]1.4071[/TD][TD="align:right"]142[/TD][TD="align:right"]76[/TD][TD="align:right"]8[/TD][TD="align:right"]0[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD="align:right"]2011[/TD][TD="align:right"]305[/TD][TD="align:right"]1.3967[/TD][TD="align:right"]196[/TD][TD="align:right"]97[/TD][TD="align:right"]12[/TD][TD="align:right"]0[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD="align:right"]2012[/TD][TD="align:right"]303[/TD][TD="align:right"]1.4620[/TD][TD="align:right"]176[/TD][TD="align:right"]114[/TD][TD="align:right"]13[/TD][TD="align:right"]0[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD="align:right"]2013[/TD][TD="align:right"]358[/TD][TD="align:right"]1.4693[/TD][TD="align:right"]202[/TD][TD="align:right"]144[/TD][TD="align:right"]12[/TD][TD="align:right"]0[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD="align:right"]2014[/TD][TD="align:right"]321[/TD][TD="align:right"]1.5171[/TD][TD="align:right"]173[/TD][TD="align:right"]130[/TD][TD="align:right"]18[/TD][TD="align:right"]0[/TD][/TR]
[/TABLE]

Spoiler: SQL

SELECT
  year Year,
  count(*) Competitions,
  avg(days) 'Average Days',
  sum(days=1) '1 Day',
  sum(days=2) '2 Days',
  sum(days=3) '3 Days',
  sum(days>3) '>3 Days'
FROM
  (SELECT id competitionId, year Year, datediff(year*10000+endMonth*100+endDay,year*10000+month*100+day) + 1 days FROM Competitions) tmp1
  natural join
  (SELECT distinct competitionId FROM Results) tmp2
GROUP BY year;

 

[LucidCuber]

This thread was partly due to my dislike of long competitions, I didn't wan't to give people ideas!

It would be difficult getting a large number of people, with time off work/school. ABHC only worked because it fell on a bank holiday. Easter is the only 4 day weekend but people would probably have other things arranged for that.

 

[~Adam~]

Great idea Greg. Easter it is =D

 

[TDM]

In India we once had 300+ competitors for 3x3

There have only been three comps with more than 300 people and none of them were in India...

 

[Wilhelm]

https://www.worldcubeassociation.org/results/c.php?i=VelbertEasterOpen2014
This was a great comp at Easter this year. There weren't many people but that's mostly because of the akward schedule and the fact that it was planned as a small comp.

 

[LucidCuber]

There have only been three comps with more than 300 people and none of them were in India...

Maybe he meant 200

www.worldcubeassociation.org/results/c.php?i=ShaastraCubeOpen2014&allResults=1#333