How to make the new Type Ds as good as the old ones

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So, we've all come to realise that the new Type D cubes are slightly inferior to the older ones. The problem with the new ones is the terrible screws. The core is also pretty crap, but not as bad as the older ones though.

Let's start with a quick comparison of the two Type D cubes. First off, the screws. In the following image, you'll see, from left to right:

1) The New type D screw
2) Type C screw
3) Old Type D screw
4) Type D spring

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(thanks lotsofsloths for the pic :) )

Here's another shot of the new screws:

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The old screws again:

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Now, if you got a cube with the OLD screws, you're in luck. I don't think it's all that likely though. If you've got the NEW screws, you'll have a nightmare cube unless you do what i say :P

Onto the core. The new core is a black core, as opposed to the white-ish transparent core the old Type D cubes had:

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Here's an Old Type D core, New Type D core, and Old Type A core:

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The new core has the habit of losing it's plastic like the old ones did:

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The Type D (old and new) straight out of the box is a piece of crap. It's horrible to turn, locks up, and the screws unscrew themselves while you solve (the new Type D cubes have this problem). So here's what you'll need:

1) OLD Type A core.
2) Some Loctite
3) Lube

1) It was lotsofsloths that came up with the A+D hybrid idea, right? 10 000 high 5's to you dude! :D

So, replace the Type D core with an old Type A core. The new Type D core isn't nearly as bad as the old one. I actually think it's great, but not AS great as an old Type A core.

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The trick, here, is to put Loctite on the threads of the screws before you screw them in.

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Just a drop or two, and then screw the screws in. Once you've got the whole cube together, adjust the tension so that the cube is more or less how you want it to be.

Now here's the important step. Ready?

Wait for it...





Keep waiting...




Leave the bloody thing alone :P I left mine for about 10 hours. Loctite takes about 24 hours to cure completely though, so you'd be better off leaving it for that length of time.

What loctite does is it makes the screw fit more "snug" in the core. It does NOT glue the screw in. The screw is still easily adjustable, but it will not adjust itself.

Now you can lube the cube up and work the lube in.

I've tested this method on one of the 7 Type D cubes i just ordered and it seems to have worked perfectly, and that cube is now a beast Type D like the old ones were.
 
to me i dont really feel the difference between an old A core and a new A core. they both feel the same. maybe because im not that fast at solving it. im just a high 40s low 50s solver.
 
Thanks for this guide DAE_JA_VOO, sounds very promising! Now I only have to find out what this Loctite could be in germany^^
And: I already put some superglue on the screws of one the Ds cube to tighten them in the core (idea came up in anaother thread) - do you think I have a chance to save them also?
 
If you live in the US this can be found at your hardware store. I purchased some a very very long time ago for my Rubik's DIY from Lowes

a note for people who are going to lowes for loctite: it will either be on the endcap type things by the cashiers or in the hardware section(usually aisles 1-4). i dont remember how much it cost, but it was reasonably cheap. Lowes employee discount ftw!

also, a HUGE thank you to Dae Ja Voo for making this thread, i will defintely have to try this out. if i get one with new screws though, should i change them out for like type c screws(i hear those are good) or will the loctite be enough?
 
I'm incredibly dissapointed with the new type D's. I bought 10 of them, and they all SUCK so bad. They were good for the first few days, but recently they all started to break. I sold them to friends, and they are all coming back to me showing me how they all completely fell apart.
wow... just wow. Way to go cube4you, i trusted you :(
 
I'm incredibly dissapointed with the new type D's. I bought 10 of them, and they all SUCK so bad. They were good for the first few days, but recently they all started to break. I sold them to friends, and they are all coming back to me showing me how they all completely fell apart.
wow... just wow. Way to go cube4you, i trusted you :(

The video you made was helpful though. I'm really upset with the 5 type D's that I have as well...:(
 
I'm incredibly dissapointed with the new type D's. I bought 10 of them, and they all SUCK so bad. They were good for the first few days, but recently they all started to break. I sold them to friends, and they are all coming back to me showing me how they all completely fell apart.
wow... just wow. Way to go cube4you, i trusted you :(

The video you made was helpful though. I'm really upset with the 5 type D's that I have as well...:(

yea i attached an annotation to my video right away. I dont want people getting screwed over by buying these.
 
I never liked type D, but now they are even worse!? Incredible!

anyway, I enjoy watching your High Quality pictures DAE_JA_VOO. :)
I get the feeling watching arts instead of watching something helpfull. :P
 
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I never liked type D, but now they are even worse!? Incredible!

anyway, I enjoy watching your High Quality pictures DAE_JA_VOO. :)
I get the feeling watching arts instead of watching something helpfull. :P

Agreed. Rama, I remember from somewhere you like type B cubes?
 
And: I already put some superglue on the screws of one the Ds cube to tighten them in the core (idea came up in anaother thread) - do you think I have a chance to save them also?
Yeah, maybe. Depends on how much glue, etc. But if not, just get yourself another core with your next order :)


lol? My cube has new screws and old core!
Yeah dude. Some of these cubes have the craziest combinations. One of my cubes had both old AND new screws :confused:



also, a HUGE thank you to Dae Ja Voo for making this thread, i will defintely have to try this out.

Nice thread Dae Ja Voo!

My pleasure guys :)


if i get one with new screws though, should i change them out for like type c screws(i hear those are good) or will the loctite be enough?
Well, Loctite works perfectly. The first cube i tried this on is still perfect, no unscrewing screws. I've just done it to the rest of the cubes i ordered.

I don't have a Type C so i have no idea how good/bad their screws happen to be.



I'm incredibly dissapointed with the new type D's. I bought 10 of them, and they all SUCK so bad. They were good for the first few days, but recently they all started to break. I sold them to friends, and they are all coming back to me showing me how they all completely fell apart.
wow... just wow. Way to go cube4you, i trusted you :(
I don't find them that bad hey. I can feel that with enough tuning and breaking in, any of the 7 i ordered can be as good as the AMAZING type D i've been using for a few months now. Even with the original "new" type D core, the cubes were great. Not FANTASTIC, but definitely us



anyway, I enjoy watching your High Quality pictures DAE_JA_VOO. :)
I get the feeling watching arts instead of watching something helpfull. :P
LOL thanks man :) I do some other work that gets posted on the net and decent pics are absolutely mandatory. Don't you just hate looking at pics that were taken with "my sister's camera phone"? :P
 
awesome thread dae ja voo. im going to have 2 try this on the type d i just recently got. I have already swapped the core 4 an old type a core and am probably going to a hardware store to get some loctite as well as some new silicone. I hope this works.
 
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